Posted on 10/11/2007 5:20:46 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Haven't they been through enough already? Many of our Vietnam Vets have fought for years to get help from VA (and are STILL fighting for them). Then to have the mere fact they sought help come back to slap them in the face is further insult to injury!
What stats are Congress basing this bill on? This is a veiled attempt to take away the arms of all Americans and defy our 2nd Ammendment rights. Unless a Veteran is a prisoner, he still has his Second Ammendment rights! If a veteran is thought to be a threat to self or others, there should be a "real" trial, not an opinion (called a diagnosis) by a psychiatrist.
Not to mention how this will PREVENT our troops returning from theatre from getting help if they are having problems. Can you imagine how ANGRY they will be? (And who wouldn't be? We were when we read this! Not to mention how emotional we felt about it too.)
I have a brother with PTSD. He hunts and subsidizes his family with meat because his income has been limited by his VOLUNTARY service, which affected him! What a slap in the face to him and others who were affected by what they encountered while serving all of us. I've never felt he would harm anyone, not ever. We've known a lot of Vietnam Vets with PTSD who we've never felt were a threat to society. Remember the number of Vets we are dealing with. So the stats just aren't there to warrant this!
Not everybody who went to Nam was affected the same way. But we know that some were and we care about them. (Unless you're in Congress evidently!) But this is the most disgusting thing we've ever heard of.
Lets see, you've been changed forever for serving your country, now Congress is going to PUNISH you further? Now that's a big THANK YOU FOR SERVING and that's logic for you...
The troops serving today are so amazing. Doing several tours of duty. We appreciate them so much. So a slap in the face like this is really going to help! Talk about pulling a bandaide off a wound! A HUGE slap in the face when these brave troops have had to fight for every thing they get. We have always needed to encourage troops to go in for counseling if they had a problem. Imagine if they were law enforcement? You're telling them they can never do the job they did before they left to serve our country? Nice job congress!
We've been dealing with Vietnam Vets for how many years? And there is NO HUGE stats for shooting incidents!
So why in the world would you do something like this to our troops?
It's a veiled attempt to take away our Second Ammendment rights.. starting with the brave men and women who have been protecting THEIR sorry *sses!
When I called Sen's Boxer's and Feinsteins offices today, they said "yes, it has already passed in the House, and it's coming up for a vote in the Senate".
I told them that there are two Vets in this house. We've never been sorry to have served. One of us is 100 percent disabled, and the other 50% from a helicopter crash in Nam as a medivac pilot. My brother, who has PTSD, has never been sorry to have served, and he also volunteered.
But my brother never came back from Nam. In all these years, the young man who left, never returned. But no one fears him either. And now they want to PUNISH HIM?
This is INSANE!
I asked that they PLEASE advocate for our troops. The troops from before and now too. To do less is a horrible joke.
I even looked up the email I got on Snopes.com. Thinking it had to be a hoax. Surely they couldn't or wouldn't do MORE HARM to the troops who've served and are serving our country so well.
But, it's true.. it's all true.
I admit, during my conversation with both offices, I broke down near the end with each office. This IS EMOTIONAL. How can we allow this to happen to our Vets?
This is just too much for me to imagine. My brother having his rifle taken away. No more Elk or deer to feed his family. No more wild Turkey's to eat. After 30 some years?
What dignity he has left will be shattered. That young man who joined to fight for a country he loved so much.
It shames me to no end to imagine that his country would "continue" to do him harm. (His fight for benefits has been unreal.)
Please call your Senators. Please tell them to prevent this travesty from happening to our troops who've served. They deserve BETTER than this!
God forbid we treat them like common criminals by denying them this RIGHT afforded them by our Constitution!
It took me all of 5 minutes to make these two calls.
Please help to stop this travesty being visited on our nations hero's.
We owe it to them! PLEASE HELP OUR VETS!!!
Contact your State Senator and tell them to vote NO on this bill! You will be calling about the following:
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The Veterans Disarmament Act
HR 2640, section 102 (1)©(iv)
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Here is a list of Senators and their phone numbers. Just click on the link. At the top of the page it will say "choose a State" (don't even bother with any other information, this will get you what you need) and it will automatically come up with your Senators and the phone numbers:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
I will definitely call my senators!!! This is outrageous!!
Ping and bookmark for dissemination to our Veteran organizations in my area.
Thanks for the heads up
So will Senators Murtha and John Kerry be banned from owning and buying also? I think they both have a bit of PTSD.
They said they are getting quite a few calls. I was so emotional about it, and I must say, the clerks were very supportive to me.
But we have to support our troops on this. It’s so sad to think we’d allow this to happen to our troops.
I’m sick to my stomach.
If only we could get this out to O’Reilly or Hannity in time to get the word out big time!
Our Vets and troops are getting blind sighted.
It’s heartbreaking.
I did see where it was posted before, but I didn’t want to restart an old thread. We needed to let people know it has now PASSED in the house!
This just got dead serious!
Thanks for helping to get the word out.
I sent out emails to everyone I can think of.
Copying this and spreading it to Disabled Vets groups and Veterans of Foreign Wars is a good idea too!
Our government elected are doing all they can do to destroy America. A vet did his duty to Country and often paid harshly for that duty. If a vet isn’t guilty of a felony he should be entitled all the rights of the 2nd ammendment.
That’s the perfect place to go. We need to let people know! We had never heard of this until today!
Thanks and lets pray for our Vets and returning troops that this does NOT happen to them. That they be treated like common criminals for LIFE!
Heck, their behind it.. if they get to vote on it, I have NO DOUBT how they will vote!
They hate anything to do with our troops.
We just can’t let this happen to our Vets. So many will be harmed by this. Can you imagine someone saying “Hey, how’d you like to go hunting this weekend?”, and the vet saying “I can’t,.. I can’t legally own a gun because I served in a war and was mixed up for while. Now I can’t own a fire arm for the rest of my life.”
We’ll be treating hundreds of thousands of Vets like common criminals! All because they VOLUNTEERED to serve our country!
FRegards
OMG this is unbelievable. I (fool that I am) really didn’t think this would pass the House.
Madness.
ABSOLUTELY!
This is the most disgusting thing we’ve ever seen. I was so upset I cried. I kept seeing the POW’s I worked on, and the troops I’ve known who were messed up, but who I know for a fact would never harm a soul. Some since 1968.. and they still haven’t harmed a soul.
The same will be true of our brave troops today. Yet, this Democratically controlled House has passed this bill and it’s being forwarded to the Senate as I type.
It was confirmed to me today by Senators Boxer and Feinsteins offices.
We MUST call the offices of our Senators to get this stopped. Or our Vets are going to be treated like common criminals.
Then try getting this thing reversed. It will be a LONG TERM nightmare!
Please pass this around to every entity you know.
We are going to copy it and put at least 50 copies in the local VFW.
What in the heck has happened to our country?
They don’t even know the enemy our troops are fighting, and they are incapable of appreciating them like they should.
FRegards, VH&W
BTTT
A lot of vets are just going to keep their silence, which will do significantly greater harm in the long run.
Bttt!
Thanks for the heads-up!
If this isn’t stopped, the state will start revoking 2nd amendment rights for parking violations...
Thanks for posting.
Is there a list of who voted for & against this bill?
(((((sigh))))....well, I’ve finally made it on someone’s list!
I guess we’ll soon find out what Molon Labe means...or if I’m NATO...no action, talk only.
Maybe this is good news in disguise.
Thank you for posting - this is sickening. Our awesome warriors and veteran warriors disarmed? I know it’s not April 1st yet. OMG.
I suggest you post the transcript of the Bill. Hint: the title is not The Veteran’s Disarmament Bill.
Disgraceful as it is, it’s only the beginning.
Logically, if a vet diagnosed with PTSD should not have a gun because he might hurt somebody...then nobody else he lives with should have one either.
Crime victims sometimes have PTSD. Will their guns be confiscated too?
How about calling the NRA and advising them of this bill?
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