[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

Vets with PTSD should not be put in a position to seek an expungement. They have not been convicted (after a trial with DUE process) of doing anything wrong.

Haven't they been through enough already? Many of our Vietnam Vets have fought for years to get help from VA (and are STILL fighting for them). Then to have the mere fact they sought help come back to slap them in the face is further insult to injury!

What stats are Congress basing this bill on? This is a veiled attempt to take away the arms of all Americans and defy our 2nd Ammendment rights. Unless a Veteran is a prisoner, he still has his Second Ammendment rights! If a veteran is thought to be a threat to self or others, there should be a "real" trial, not an opinion (called a diagnosis) by a psychiatrist.

Not to mention how this will PREVENT our troops returning from theatre from getting help if they are having problems. Can you imagine how ANGRY they will be? (And who wouldn't be? We were when we read this! Not to mention how emotional we felt about it too.)

I have a brother with PTSD. He hunts and subsidizes his family with meat because his income has been limited by his VOLUNTARY service, which affected him! What a slap in the face to him and others who were affected by what they encountered while serving all of us. I've never felt he would harm anyone, not ever. We've known a lot of Vietnam Vets with PTSD who we've never felt were a threat to society. Remember the number of Vets we are dealing with. So the stats just aren't there to warrant this!

Not everybody who went to Nam was affected the same way. But we know that some were and we care about them. (Unless you're in Congress evidently!) But this is the most disgusting thing we've ever heard of.

Lets see, you've been changed forever for serving your country, now Congress is going to PUNISH you further? Now that's a big THANK YOU FOR SERVING and that's logic for you...

The troops serving today are so amazing. Doing several tours of duty. We appreciate them so much. So a slap in the face like this is really going to help! Talk about pulling a bandaide off a wound! A HUGE slap in the face when these brave troops have had to fight for every thing they get. We have always needed to encourage troops to go in for counseling if they had a problem. Imagine if they were law enforcement? You're telling them they can never do the job they did before they left to serve our country? Nice job congress!

We've been dealing with Vietnam Vets for how many years? And there is NO HUGE stats for shooting incidents!

So why in the world would you do something like this to our troops?

It's a veiled attempt to take away our Second Ammendment rights.. starting with the brave men and women who have been protecting THEIR sorry *sses!

When I called Sen's Boxer's and Feinsteins offices today, they said "yes, it has already passed in the House, and it's coming up for a vote in the Senate".

I told them that there are two Vets in this house. We've never been sorry to have served. One of us is 100 percent disabled, and the other 50% from a helicopter crash in Nam as a medivac pilot. My brother, who has PTSD, has never been sorry to have served, and he also volunteered.

But my brother never came back from Nam. In all these years, the young man who left, never returned. But no one fears him either. And now they want to PUNISH HIM?

This is INSANE!

I asked that they PLEASE advocate for our troops. The troops from before and now too. To do less is a horrible joke.

I even looked up the email I got on Snopes.com. Thinking it had to be a hoax. Surely they couldn't or wouldn't do MORE HARM to the troops who've served and are serving our country so well.

But, it's true.. it's all true.

I admit, during my conversation with both offices, I broke down near the end with each office. This IS EMOTIONAL. How can we allow this to happen to our Vets?

This is just too much for me to imagine. My brother having his rifle taken away. No more Elk or deer to feed his family. No more wild Turkey's to eat. After 30 some years?

What dignity he has left will be shattered. That young man who joined to fight for a country he loved so much.

It shames me to no end to imagine that his country would "continue" to do him harm. (His fight for benefits has been unreal.)

Please call your Senators. Please tell them to prevent this travesty from happening to our troops who've served. They deserve BETTER than this!

God forbid we treat them like common criminals by denying them this RIGHT afforded them by our Constitution!

It took me all of 5 minutes to make these two calls.

Please help to stop this travesty being visited on our nations hero's.

We owe it to them! PLEASE HELP OUR VETS!!!

Contact your State Senator and tell them to vote NO on this bill! You will be calling about the following:

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The Veterans Disarmament Act

HR 2640, section 102 (1)©(iv)

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Here is a list of Senators and their phone numbers. Just click on the link. At the top of the page it will say "choose a State" (don't even bother with any other information, this will get you what you need) and it will automatically come up with your Senators and the phone numbers:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

[fishergirl]

I will definitely call my senators!!! This is outrageous!!

[Leofl]

Ping and bookmark for dissemination to our Veteran organizations in my area.

Thanks for the heads up

[Duke Phelan]

So will Senators Murtha and John Kerry be banned from owning and buying also? I think they both have a bit of PTSD.

[JamesA]

Our government elected are doing all they can do to destroy America. A vet did his duty to Country and often paid harshly for that duty. If a vet isn’t guilty of a felony he should be entitled all the rights of the 2nd ammendment.

[SE Mom]

OMG this is unbelievable. I (fool that I am) really didn’t think this would pass the House.

Madness.

[SE Mom]

BTTT

[Inyo-Mono]

Bttt!

[rock_lobsta]

Thanks for the heads-up!

If this isn’t stopped, the state will start revoking 2nd amendment rights for parking violations...

[kellynla]

Thanks for posting.

Is there a list of who voted for & against this bill?

[Eagle Eye]

(((((sigh))))....well, I’ve finally made it on someone’s list!

I guess we’ll soon find out what Molon Labe means...or if I’m NATO...no action, talk only.

Maybe this is good news in disguise.

[MonicaG]

Thank you for posting - this is sickening. Our awesome warriors and veteran warriors disarmed? I know it’s not April 1st yet. OMG.

[Shooter 2.5]

I suggest you post the transcript of the Bill. Hint: the title is not The Veteran’s Disarmament Bill.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Disgraceful as it is, it’s only the beginning.
Logically, if a vet diagnosed with PTSD should not have a gun because he might hurt somebody...then nobody else he lives with should have one either.
Crime victims sometimes have PTSD. Will their guns be confiscated too?

[Fudd Fan]

How can this be Constitutional?!?!

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

You can thank the NRA for helping to push this abomination through.

NRA = Not Really Americans.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

PINNNNNG!!!

[editor-surveyor]

Shal not be infringed is too tough for these fools to understand.

[AuntB]

More here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1901053/posts

I can’t find anything that says it has passed the Senate, but I don’t doubt it.

It has passed the house by voice vote, so no record of the traitors.

Evidently NRA supports it and claims it will not do what GOA says. More analysis here: http://republicanmichigander.blogspot.com/2007/06/gun-bill-passes-house-hr2640.html

Here is Thomas on the bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.02640:

Links are a few days old, so the Thomas links may not work today.

Here’s another: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2640

[JUMPIN JEHOSPOHAT]

BTT! bookmark for later

[pray4liberty]

Whatever happened to due process of law? Seems like our President and Congress are too busy pissing on the Constitution that our men and women died to defend.

I am beyond disgusted.