Posted on 10/13/2007 8:34:15 AM PDT by do the dhue
Thank, you for the kind post. I hope you are right. I hope it does help people.
Now, that is a good one!!
Gotta give this one to you.
God Bless us all
I think you are correct. I am sure we could live in peace with the Jew, the Hindu, the Buddhist; but I am not sold on the idea of living in peace with the followers of Muhammad.
Scripture says you wont be able to buy and sell good without the mark. I don't think we will have a machine reading the hearts or actions and man to allow them to buy and sell goods.
Also, scripture says that one of the punishments will be sores developed by those who receive the mark. So, they tattoo or implant something in the people and the body rejects it and develops sores and the like. This is what I think.
thanks for the post
ALL nations will eventually go AGAINST Israel.
I have heard reference to this many times, but have been unable to locate it in the Bible. Could you please supply chapter and verse, so I can see the original source—Thanks.
I will look it up for you. Probably Monday when I have more time - on my way to church and we have company coming over today - it’s going to be hectic.
It seems quite probable that the whole world will go against Israel. The Muslim nations have oil, and to get it, the other nations will eventually have to kowtow to Islam.
Not necessarily. The US gets the majority of it’s oil from Canada and Mexico. The Arab countries have the most and hence dictate prices.
What troubles me is that the U.S. will also become one of the (ALL) nations to oppose Israel.
Yes it is troubling. You can also see how Democrats in particular oppose befriending Israel ...
U.S. citizens may eventually have to choose between their own country and Israel (whom presumably God will support).
Not really. People in power will be making that choice.
That’s going to be a tough choice. I want to support my country, but I also want to be on the side that God is on. I trust that His team will win.
With hope, we won’t be here and the godless will suffer their godless consequences. I doubt that Christians will be here when that happens.
ALL nations will eventually go AGAINST Israel.
I have heard reference to this many times, but have been unable to locate it in the Bible. Could you please supply chapter and verse, so I can see the original source—Thanks.
I will look it up for you. Probably Monday when I have more time - on my way to church and we have company coming over today - it’s going to be hectic.
It seems quite probable that the whole world will go against Israel. The Muslim nations have oil, and to get it, the other nations will eventually have to kowtow to Islam.
Not necessarily. The US gets the majority of it’s oil from Canada and Mexico. The Arab countries have the most and hence dictate prices.
What troubles me is that the U.S. will also become one of the (ALL) nations to oppose Israel.
Yes it is troubling. You can also see how Democrats in particular oppose befriending Israel ...
U.S. citizens may eventually have to choose between their own country and Israel (whom presumably God will support).
Not really. People in power will be making that choice.
That’s going to be a tough choice. I want to support my country, but I also want to be on the side that God is on. I trust that His team will win.
With hope, we won’t be here and the godless will suffer their godless consequences. I doubt that Christians will be here when that happens.
Quickly, here’s an answer for you. I glanced over it and it is kosher. I can’t vouch for the rest of the website since I haven’t read through it but what it says about Israel is Biblically sound with verses.
Prophecies Concerning The Nation of Israel
By far, the greatest number of prophecies in the Bible concern the nation of Israel. In fact, many have said that if you want to know what time it is on God’s clock, then look at the nation of Israel, for she shall be the center of attention in the fulfillment of Bible prophecies in these last days. Today we live in an age when the entire focus of the world is upon a tiny strip of land in the Middle East called Israel. So lets have a look at what Bible prophecy says about this nation.
1. Disobedience would lead to the nation of Israel being scattered amongst all nations.
Deut 28:64 ‘Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other.’
See also Lev 26:33, Jer 9:16, Ezek 12:15. In all, 6 different books of the Bible predict the scattering of Israel amongst all the nations of the earth. History records this being fulfilled in 70 AD when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Roman Empire and the remaining Jews were scattered amongst the nations.
2. No rest for their souls while in exile amongst the nations
Deut 28:65-66 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the LORD will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life.
For nearly 2000 years following the destruction in 70AD, the ‘wandering Jew’ has lived without a homeland, subject to the strongest racial prejudice and torment suffered by any people group. From the day they were scattered to the day Hitler devised his ‘final solution to the Jewish problem’, this prophecy spoken by Moses has sadly been fulfilled.
3. God himself would restore the Jews to the land of Israel from all the nations
Jer 16:14-16 However, the days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when men will no longer say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,’ but they will say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.’ For I will restore them to the land I gave their forefathers.
In all, 13 books of the Bible speak of the nation of Israel being restored in their land from the nations in which they were scattered. This prophecy became history in 1948 when the United Nations granted a homeland to the Jewish people and the nation of Israel was reborn! See also Jer 3:14, 31:8-9, Isa 60:8-9, Deut 30:3, Amos 9:15.
4. The desolate land of Israel would again blossom and be fruitful in the last days.
Zech 7:14 I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations, where they were strangers. The land was left so desolate behind them that no one could come or go. This is how they made the pleasant land desolate.
History records that while the Jewish people were exiled amongst many nations, the land of Israel was a barren desert. See also Lev 26:14, Ezek 15:8, Jer 9:12-13, 23:10, 44:22, Isa 32:13
Isa 27:6 In the days to come, Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill the world with fruit.
This is exactly the case today! Not only has God bought the Jewish people back into their land like He said He would in the last days, but He has also blessed the land so that they now export flowers and fruit around the world! Satellite photos show the green pastures of the nation of Israel, in sharp contrast with the surrounding desert lands of the Arab nations. See also Isa 35:1, Ezek 36:35.
5. God Himself would defend Israel and cause Israel to be mighty in battle
Zech 12:8 On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them.
Taken in context, this verse speaks about God defending Israel in a battle to come in the last days. Have we not seen this miraculously occur several times since Israel became a nation again in 1948. They have been greatly outnumbered in key Arab-Israeli wars in 1948, 1967, and 1973. Yet Israel exists! God has seen to that!
6. In the last days, Jerusalem would be a burden to the entire world.
Zech 12:2-3 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about... And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces.
Turn on your TV and watch the news. What nation and what city would you most likely expect to see? Israel and Jerusalem! Today, Jerusalem is a burden that causes trembling for all the nations just as God foretold. What makes this prophecy even more remarkable is that when the prophet Zechariah spoke these words around 520BC, Jerusalem lay in ruins. But God said it would become the focus of the world’s attention! Today, Israel has 0.01% of the worlds population, yet 33% of the United Nations resolutions have been passed concerning her!
7. In the end, all nations shall come against Israel.
Zech 14:2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped.
Apart from the USA, Israel has few allies. In a recent conference on racism in South Africa, the Israeli and United States delegates were forced to walk out as the other participating nations vented their anger towards Israel and tried to declare it a racist state. One day, the Bible predicts, she will have no allies, and all nations shall be gathered against her. The TV news will show you that we are on the road towards that battle. But if the odds seem a little uneven, please read the next prophecy that the Bible predicts...
8. God Himself, Jesus Christ, will return and fight for Israel against the attacking nations.
Zech 14:3-4 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
You may have heard of this battle to come. It’s called the battle of Armageddon because of the location where the nations assemble themselves before attacking. The book of Revelation puts it like this...
Rev 16:14-16 They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty... Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.
Revelation also prophecies the return of Jesus Christ on this day saying...
Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war.
9. The nation of Israel will finally recognize that Jesus was their Messiah, whom they crucified!
Zech 12:9-10 On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem. And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
What a day that will be! Even though the Bible predicted that the Messiah would die, and have His feet and hands pierced, the nation of Israel has, for the last 2000 years, hardened their heart and not believed that Jesus was their Messiah. At the time of the end, they will again look to the one whom they pierced and oh how great the mourning and sadness will be on that day for what they did! Yet Jesus will pour out His grace upon Israel!
10. God will judge the nations depending upon their treatment of the Jewish people.
Joel 1:1-2 In those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.
Today we live in an age where we hear all the time about a ‘Middle-East peace process’. It essentially comes down to ‘Israel give up more of your land and we won’t send as many suicide bombers into your cities...’ It seems everyone wants a slice of Jerusalem for themselves. For this, and the world’s repeated and continual abysmal treatment of the Jewish people, the judgment of God will come.
http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/prophecy.htm
Let me know if that helps!
Later read.
Also, direct deposit from your employer to your bank from your bank to your debit card.
I think it is the chip being introduced in a subtle way, next they will tell us that the skin implant will be so much easier and that you won't have your identity stolen i.e social security number or lose your credit cards or have a thief steel them. HMMMMM!
What say anyone?
GOD has that covered.
I also think this: all this stuff is ushered in by the anti-Christ. I see someone who hates Christians and Jews as the one who would fit the mold best. All the wars on the planet belong to Islam. A jew, Christian, or Hindu will not get them to put their weapons down. The anti-Christ will bring world peace for a short while (about 3.5 years, I think) and then all hell breaks out. So, I think it will be something forced down upon the people. Seems as though some Christians will lose their heads. Who today likes to commit such an act? The Jew? The Christian? The Hindu? The Buddhist? I don't know what is going to happen. Maybe a man name of Hussein right here in this Country becomes President one day? Maybe there is a rapture and most of the Christians in America and the world are raptured and the only ones left behind will be Tribulation Saints? Maybe, America is attacked and that is why she is no help to Israel? Maybe, Jimmy Carter runs again and he gives Israel no help?
It is good that we are learning and watching and keeping our hope. And it is good that we comfort each other. I am not afraid because I know who my God is and I know He loves me and I love him. As I walk in the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I fear no evil. Because I have the King of Israel and the King of Kings by my side.
Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
234 posted on 10/13/2007 6:15:24 PM MDT by dennisw
It is Paganism introduced by Emperor Constantine. A good read is Christmas and Easter by Rav. David PollinaInteresting But Christmas has nothing to do with the Jewish Messiah.
shalom b'shem Yah'shua
And a BIG AMEN to that!
What do you think about this?
Jeremiah 10
1 Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel. 2 This is what the LORD says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the sky,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.
Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good.”
6 No one is like you, O LORD;
you are great,
and your name is mighty in power.
I think the Christmas Tree is described.
The link in 317 above is excellent.
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