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To: do the dhue
(I think around 80 percent of America believes in Jesus)

Are you sure you live in the same America that I do? I would be surprised if even 20% of all Americans are born again Christians. A majority of the mainline Protestant churches are liberal, apostate false churches that preach a false works salvation and a social gospel, and a quarter of the others are just nice social clubs. Based on my experience and conversations with Catholics, IMHO more Catholics are only nominal Christians than are true believers in Jesus Christ, which is probably about the same ratio as mainline Protestants. If you don't believe it just ask yourself why the states that are most heavily Catholic are also among the strongest supporters of abortion "rights" when the Catholic Church itself is the most vocal opponent of abortion in the world.

Add all that up and throw in the millions upon millions of Americans who don't even make a pretense of being Christian and you are left with a small minority of the population, both Protestants, evangelicals, and Catholics, who are true believers in the Gospel of Christ. The bible says that by their works we shall know them, "them" being true Christians. We aren't saved by our good works, but if we are saved by grace through faith in the risen Lord Jesus Christ our works will show it.

332 posted on 10/14/2007 11:16:51 AM PDT by epow (The cross in the middle should have been mine)
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To: epow
I hear you, I wanted to be nice. But I think like this too: when the times get tough, there will be a lot who will come to know the Lord.

And I like to remember that tuff times never last, tuff people do.

334 posted on 10/14/2007 11:28:23 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: epow
IMHO more Catholics are only nominal Christians than are true believers in Jesus Christ, which is probably about the same ratio as mainline Protestants. If you don't believe it just ask yourself why the states that are most heavily Catholic are also among the strongest supporters of abortion "rights" when the Catholic Church itself is the most vocal opponent of abortion in the world.

Your characterization probably applies to "new age" Catholics, who practice the post-Vatican II form of Catholicism with its patronizing of popular culture. OTOH, traditionalist Catholics, who still attend the Latin Mass and reject the modernisms, are 100% opposed to abortion and the unnecessary taking of innocent human life, now and forever.

341 posted on 10/14/2007 7:54:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture ™)
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