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Rift deepens among gays as rights bill moves to House floor
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/19/7 | Carolyn Lochhead

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:50:02 AM PDT by SmithL

Washington -- A rancorous breach within the gay community over dropping transgender people from a job discrimination bill widened Thursday when a committee approved the bill and moved it to the House floor.

Four Democrats bucked their party leadership to vote against the Employment Non-Discrimination Act as Congress' only open lesbian moved to add gender identity back into the bill, which Democrats had hoped would be a signal civil rights achievement on their watch.

"This is the first time in the history of the civil rights movement that a bill that does not have the support of a single constituent organization is being moved to the House floor," said Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, which opposes the legislation with nearly 300 gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender activist groups and allies such as the American Civil Liberties Union.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., offered a version of the bill that banned job discrimination against gays, lesbians and bisexuals, but dropped protections for gender identity because he said Democrats didn't have the votes to pass it. The decision infuriated gay activists, who argued no single group should be abandoned.

Rep. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., broke with Frank, Congress' only openly gay man, proposing an amendment to add gender identity back into the bill.

"I have never wavered from my conviction that (the bill) must include protections based upon sexual orientation and gender identity," Baldwin said in a statement.

Noting a strong response from around the country, Baldwin stated, "This extraordinary opportunity to advance LGBT rights in America is proud evidence of democracy in which the people decide what is possible."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; pelosi

1 posted on 10/19/2007 11:50:05 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Leave no fag behind.............


2 posted on 10/19/2007 11:53:03 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: SmithL

And they wonder why outsourcing labor is a hot trend...


3 posted on 10/19/2007 11:54:18 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: SmithL
In most employment circumstances (other than the porn industry, I guess), the questions on the employment application or in the job interview don't usually concern your sex habits or home activities in the bedroom.

Only in the sex deviate world are added rights being legislated for the sexual misfits to gain an advantage (and afford Lawyers yet ANOTHER opportunity to sue the employers when a for-cause dismissal can have a basis in the newly-minted-defense-law).

4 posted on 10/19/2007 11:55:54 AM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: SmithL
Even if we assumed this was a great idea (which I do not), the obvious question to be answered is just how are we going to keep a heterosexual guy from pretending to be transgendered just because he wants to visit the women's powder room or get special legal treatment?

Are we all supposed to carry special identity cards?

5 posted on 10/19/2007 11:56:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: SmithL
"A rancorous breach"

ROFL....somehow, I knew Bawney Fwank's name would be in this article somewhere!

6 posted on 10/19/2007 11:57:11 AM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: SmithL
Rep. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., broke with Frank

She represents Madison, WI unsurprisingly.

7 posted on 10/19/2007 11:59:44 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Vigilanteman
"Are we all supposed to carry special identity cards?"

An excellent point!

I suspect that if the job includes a "gender/orientation proof", you probably don't want to continue working there!

("Next, we have the gender/orientation proof test for you to complete")

8 posted on 10/19/2007 11:59:51 AM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: traditional1

No we can’t do that according to the Dims who oppose ID cards to vote...


9 posted on 10/19/2007 12:12:30 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I really want this to pass. Then I’ll declare my homosexuality publicly, insist that I should have had higher raises but didn’t get them because my boss knew of my secrect proclivities, make a million or two in the settlement and not have to work any more.

In this type of situation the burden of proof will be on my employer to prove that they didn’t discriminate.

It’s insane!

Do I really need a /sarc tag?


10 posted on 10/19/2007 12:17:42 PM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: traditional1

You know, you think Congress is a serious and sobering undertaking and then you read that those heartless dems have thrown the transgenders off the homo train. I will never again vote for either Barney the fag or Nancy the hag. The horror, the horror. Imagine an America where a transgender is not embraced by all. We truly live in a hateful society - thanks to Barney and Nancy - the transgenderphobes. The he/she haters. The women with large hands and adams apple bigots. Where would America be if it were not for transgenders and transvestites? I am so ashamed to be an American. Why aren’t transgender and transvestites not serving with pride in our military? I am so ashamed.


11 posted on 10/19/2007 12:17:48 PM PDT by Jigajog
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To: Resolute Conservative
Can you picture an ID card that has G-L-B-T check boxes on it?

Oh, the humanity....

12 posted on 10/19/2007 12:18:19 PM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: Jigajog
ROFL !

Here's a couple of quality job applicants who can represent your company, and should not be discriminated against in employment:


13 posted on 10/19/2007 12:25:56 PM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: lOKKI

>> It’s insane!

And then some.

I wonder how this will fare on the floor of the House. And, if it passes, what effect it will have on the congressional elections.

If it somehow manages to clear the House, would it pass in the Senate?

Would President Bush sign it?

Legislating “rights” for sex perverts CANNOT be a good thing for US.


14 posted on 10/19/2007 12:27:32 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Red Badger

“This is the first time in the history of the civil rights movement that a bill that does not have the support of a single constituent...”

Nope...not many constituents around here support it....

Thank God.


15 posted on 10/19/2007 12:34:05 PM PDT by Adder (hialb)
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To: Red Badger

Sodomy is not a Civil Right!!!


16 posted on 10/19/2007 12:48:58 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: SmithL
"A rancorous breach"

Better put a gerbil on that.
17 posted on 10/20/2007 2:34:18 PM PDT by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: SmithL
"A rancorous breach within the gay community..."

HA!!

Well.
I suppose *if* the San Fransisco Chronicle said it.

...it must be so.

18 posted on 10/20/2007 2:38:06 PM PDT by Landru (finally made it to the dark side of the moon.)
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