Posted on 10/22/2007 11:51:09 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
And, if Giuliani should, by some twist of fate, win the presidency, it will mean the end of Reaganism. It will represent a turning point in the history of the Republican Party and our nation. It will mean the continued deaths of tens of millions unborn babies when we are closer than ever to defeating the abortion culture that Roe v. Wade initiated in 1973.
Should Giuliani succeed, it will represent the end of any hope for the Republican Party to serve as an alternative to the Democratic Party for millions of people like me and Dr. Dobson. That's bigger than two terms of Hillary Rodham Clinton. That's worse even than four or eight more years in the wilderness.
I actually believe it would be worse for America if Rudy Giuliani were elected president than Hillary Rodham Clinton.
If Hillary wins, the reaction to her predictable overreaching will be similar to what we experienced in 1994 – a "Republican revolution."
If Rudy wins, millions will simply defect from the Republican Party. If you want to see the rise of a third party, just be sure to nominate Giuliani and elect him as president.
The long-term consequences of a Giuliani victory are far worse than the consequences of a Clinton victory.
So let's avoid that dire choice now. There's still time to avoid such an unpleasant scenario. Let's just nominate a Republican the Republican base can support.
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My “mindless blather” is entirely consistent with the use of my time and talent. It’s wonderful to see that the fallacy accuser resorts to the ad hominem fallacy so effortlessly.
Pray tell, what part of my premise is fallacious?
AMEN!
I'm sorry my selfishness over giving a crap about 50 million murdered American lives comes across as arrogance, but I won't have that blood on my hands.
LOL! Ask his ex-wife about how Rudy sticks to his "commitments".
Rudy is a firm supporter of Abortion. Hell, he's probably paid for a few for some of his mistresses. Does anyone really think he will stick to a commitment to give us strict constructionist judges? Does anyone want to buy a bridge in New York?
Wow. You guys really seem to think Guilianni would be a disaster. If we get commitments from him to support 2nd Amendment rights, marriage between a man and a woman, and on the abortion issue, I don’t have a problem with him. I’m for Duncan Hunter because his heart and record backs up every one of these things and more . . . but Hillary would clearly be a disaster.
Freedom once lost is hard to regain.
I’m not sure that freedom has ever been regained within the same culture and people in all of history actually.
I’m certainly not a supporter of Guilianni. I like Duncan Hunter . . . 99% trust him and 99% agree with him. Why compromise?
That said, you are saying he “probably” has paid for abortions. That is nonsense and wrong for you to throw out there. As far as divorce goes, Hunter, Romney, and maybe Paul and Tancredo, are the only candidates that have stuck with thier wives. Hillary has stayed married as well. Guilianni and Thompson are both out if that is the criteria.
You may not believe him, but between Clinton and Giuliani I'd take the likely possibility of getting solid judicial picks over the certainty of getting liberal justices. Staying home or voting third party guarantees the latter, while voting for Rudy , if he is even the nominee, gets you the former. Which do you think has a better chance of having any effect on abortion?
Those of us who stand on principles are ready to endure a Hillary presidency if the Republicans are stupid enough to choose Giuliani as the Republican standard bearer.
I will stand on principle. I will NEVER vote for Guliani for President. NEVER. No matter what the cost.
I will make my principled stand and if necessary I will die on this hill. There are millions like me.
This is where I have totally agreed with Dobson but no one will make me believe Rudy would be worse than Hillary.
Hillary Uncensored
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019&pr=goog-sl
If we get commitments from him they will be meaningless. He is a Trojan horse.
How about just abstaining for voting for President if Rudy is the nominee? Do you think your GOP candidates for House and Senate and for the GOP in your State also deserve to lose?
“There is nothing more dangerous to the future and values of our country than a Hillary Presidency. She must be stopped”
I’ll drink to that!!! (wine, of course)
Then we'd all better work hard at getting someone nominated besides Rudy, because if he is selected, she will be our next Prez.
If you truly believe this, then you should be more than supportive of someone who is voting in keeping with God's principles. It is a good thing for them to do personally, and God will ensure that whoever He wants in office will be there, regardless of that individual's vote.
Right?
standing on principles = enduring a Hillary Presidency
is like
not wanting to get wet = jumping in the lake
Fight for Fred - that’s cool. But deal with it if he loses the Primary and please help keep Hillary out of the White House.
Or move to Canada if you want - like all the Dems after Bush won (twice).
That entire episode reminds me of the power-mad political king-maker trying to cut down the junior senator in Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.
Sure, it's an exaggerated example, but think about it...
These are very high stakes indeed, which is exactly why all thoughts of Rudy must stop here and now.
Linky no worky..
[ ,I pray we all are prepared to crawl over broken glass to stop Her, regardless of who the Republican nominee is.]
Well, just call me onery or a fool or what you will. But it seems to me that voting for a rino is not a conservative vote, it is a less liberal vote and that is just wrong, wrong, wrong.
Remember, we live a representitive republic and elect those who represent us. Social liberals are not conservatives as President Bush has shown us many conservatives are tired of being burned over and over again.
I mean, why not just settle on a conservative and then conservatives will not have to compromise their personal morals and beleif system.
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