Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 11/12/2007 10:45:44 PM PST by Rick_Michael
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Rick_Michael
Won’t they have to get above 300 percent in order to break even with the added electricity?
2 posted on 11/12/2007 10:50:27 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

More grand plans, theories, and futurism. I’m full, thanks.


3 posted on 11/12/2007 10:51:41 PM PST by Hunterite
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

Sounds good!

Add this info to this posted study and it seems to be moving along better and better.

University of Virginia Scientists Discover Record-Breaking Hydrogen Storage Materials for Use in Fuel Cells

http://www.virginia.edu/uvatoday/newsRelease.php?id=3273


4 posted on 11/12/2007 10:51:44 PM PST by crazyshrink (Being uninformed is one thing, choosing ignorance is a whole different problem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Red Badger

Ping to you, sir.


5 posted on 11/12/2007 10:52:16 PM PST by ConservativeMind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

Cellulouse ?

Why not use sewage? Compost heaps?

Wetlands?

Dead liberals? 8<)


6 posted on 11/12/2007 10:54:42 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael
generated hydrogen gas at nearly 99 percent of the theoretical maximum yield using aetic acid, a common dead-end product of glucose fermentation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aetic Acid?

Is that related to lysergic acid diethylamide?

Aetic Acid. Never heard of it.

Maybe the article means Acetic Acid?

Just use the LSD, and then you can have a trip without getting in the freekin electric car.

LOL

15 posted on 11/12/2007 11:44:40 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael
" also can be used to convert wood chips into hydrogen to be used as fertilizer. "

Could they also use leaves from trees also ? or does it have to be wood ?
17 posted on 11/12/2007 11:54:09 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Beowulf

~~ AGW™ ping~~


23 posted on 11/13/2007 3:11:48 AM PST by steelyourfaith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

Another one of those miracle technologies that is going to revolutionize everything. If I only had a dime for every one I’ve read about...


26 posted on 11/13/2007 3:49:03 AM PST by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

Cost of energy in must be less than value of energy out. Or else it’s a failure.


27 posted on 11/13/2007 3:51:29 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...

Hydrogen ping!


32 posted on 11/13/2007 5:16:22 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

Was hydrogen (the universe’s most abundant element) in short supply?


34 posted on 11/13/2007 5:23:06 AM PST by Teacher317
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

Did they mean to say acetic acid and not aetic acid?


38 posted on 11/13/2007 6:05:02 AM PST by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael
Couldn't this create electricity resistant bacteria, dooming our planet?

40 posted on 11/13/2007 6:44:19 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

This process produces 288 percent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added in the process,


Cool! - Then use that added energy to turn a wheel which in turn generates electricity and we have a perpetual motion machine! Just damn!


41 posted on 11/13/2007 6:49:19 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Uncledave

I haven’t read this article yet, but it might be suitable for the renewable energy ping list.


53 posted on 11/13/2007 9:39:06 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

Efficient? Not at all. But as a means to get energy independence it won’t hurt anything but the budget.


54 posted on 11/13/2007 9:41:41 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

another could be breakthrough


71 posted on 11/13/2007 5:45:06 PM PST by Flavius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Rick_Michael

hydrogen is so...explosive.

People being people - I am imagining all sorts of terrible accidents for workers at the plants - and also for drivers in unfortunate accidents.

Can anyone put my mind at ease?


90 posted on 11/15/2007 5:32:31 AM PST by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...
Novel technique for cheap and abundant hydrogen
Agence France-Presse
Tuesday, November 13, 2007
COSMOS magazine
The new method developed by engineers at Pennsylvania State University in University Park, U.S., combines electron-generating bacteria and a small electrical charge in a microbial fuel cell to produce hydrogen gas. Microbial fuel cells work through the action of bacteria, which can pass electrons to an anode. The electrons flow from the anode through a wire to the cathode producing an electric current. In the process, the bacteria consume organic matter in the biomass material. An external jolt of electricity helps generate hydrogen gas at the cathode. In the past, the process, which is known as electrohydrogenesis, has had poor efficiency rates and low hydrogen yields. But environmental engineers Shaoan Cheng and Bruce Logan were able to get around these problems by chemically modifying elements of the reactor... In laboratory experiments, their reactor generated hydrogen gas at nearly 99 per cent of the theoretical maximum yield using aetic acid, a common dead-end product of glucose fermentation. "This process produces 288 per cent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added in the process," said Logan... One of the immediate applications for this technology is to supply the fuel for electric fuel cell vehicles – but it could also be used to convert wood chips into hydrogen to create fertiliser, said the researchers.

95 posted on 11/17/2007 8:03:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Saturday, November 17, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson