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Hillary Clinton to speak at Rick Warren's church
One News Now ^ | November 15, 2007 | Fred Jackson

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:41:47 AM PST by ZGuy

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-New York) will join Rick Warren at his California church this month for an AIDS conference.

Warren says he has invited several other presidential candidates from both parties to attend his third annual Global Summit on AIDS, but Senator Clinton is the only one, so far, to confirm. According to a press release, others who have expressed interest and currently are dealing with scheduling issues include GOP presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, and Rudy Giuliani, and Democrats John Edwards and Senator Barak Obama (D-Illinois).

According to Warren, "Inviting politicians from different perspectives to the Summit is not a political decision -- it is a humanitarian and Christian action." The Summit is scheduled for Nov. 27-Dec. 1 at Saddleback Church, Warren's church in Lake Forest, California.

Obama was one of the speakers during Warren's Global Summit on AIDS last year, as was Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) who last month withdrew from the GOP presidential competition.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aids; hillary; jumpedtheshark; megachurch; rickwarren; saddleback
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To: reflecting
You are not compromised as a minister or a Christian if you work with others to accomplish a material goal. Warren is not asking H. Clinton to share the plan of salvation.

However, to 'partner' with Clinton is to give the impression of supporting her and her positions on the issues (abortion comes to mind).

51 posted on 11/15/2007 10:20:34 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: reflecting
I never said anything about not talking to anyone. I said he had to put aside his Christianity to invite some of those people -- like a MORMON for example -- to SPEAK in his church. You shouldn't waste your energy getting mad over something that wasn't even said.
52 posted on 11/15/2007 10:24:27 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Coldwater Creek

“Warren=Pseudominister”

LOL..how true.


53 posted on 11/15/2007 10:26:00 AM PST by SHEENA26
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To: Ann Archy; reflecting
Rick Warren is a PHONY.....sorry.

And perhaps...so much more!

Christians have the One-and-Only, greatest Hope (Jesus Christ)to offer the sin-soaked, AIDS-ridden continent of Africa and Warren chooses to lend an ear, and to give a platform, to what some consider a modern day Jezebel.

The best possible solution this potential Jezebel could offer to an AIDS sufferer is only of temporal relief and this so-called "solution" would ridiculously pale in comparison to the eternal healing power of Jesus Christ.

54 posted on 11/15/2007 10:35:17 AM PST by pby
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To: reflecting
You said: You are not compromised as a minister or a Christian if you work with others to accomplish a material goal. Warren is not asking H. Clinton to share the plan of salvation.

So right there you admit he is putting his Christianity aside INSIDE HIS OWN CHURCH to accomplish this goal. That's what I said and you got mad at me.

55 posted on 11/15/2007 10:35:23 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: pby

“As you Are Going”


56 posted on 11/15/2007 11:42:31 AM PST by reflecting
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To: pby

You are right she would not, but then again the AIDs sufferers are not inside your church either...nor are the sarving there.


57 posted on 11/15/2007 11:44:00 AM PST by reflecting
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To: linn37
Is it not wonderful the Jesus does not exclude the sleazy people....maybe you were once a sleazy person.
58 posted on 11/15/2007 11:45:42 AM PST by reflecting
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To: MEGoody

“You are not compromised as a minister or a Christian if you work with others to accomplish a material goal. Warren is not asking H. Clinton to share the plan of salvation.”

I’m sure Code Pink and the Gay/Lesbian Alliance do self adulating good work like feeding the homeless once a year. Should “Christian” Churches partner with them too?


59 posted on 11/15/2007 11:46:30 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I am not at all angry, sorry if the black and white words don’t carry the emotion behind them.


60 posted on 11/15/2007 11:48:22 AM PST by reflecting
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To: pby

True but that only solution is very much appreciated by the sick among us.


61 posted on 11/15/2007 11:49:33 AM PST by reflecting
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To: reflecting

If you do not understanding the difference between sharing the gospel with a witch on the fast track to eternal condemnation and letting evil mount a pulpit in a “house of worship” to spew humanistic garbage, than pray for discernment.

If Warren wants to do something about the African AIDS problem, he can feel free to help our little 300 person church send 30 people to Swaziland this year again, like we did on our own last year (that’s right FRiend, we tithed OUR CHURCH). For Warren, the materials we paid for ourselves and our travel costs would be a small dent in petty cash. Instead, he is giving pulpit time to a communist that has a solution — “We will take things away from you for the common good.” About as far from heart based ministry and cheerful giving as you can get. Jesus would not stoop to stealing from the unwilling to support a “cause”.

Rent a clue. Warren is a false and failed leader.


62 posted on 11/15/2007 11:58:10 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
NO I’m not, as church families we often work to accomplish material goals....we stop and pay the light bill, we have the local police share at camp about safety.....
63 posted on 11/15/2007 12:01:16 PM PST by reflecting
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To: L,TOWM

So let me understand your position...if a man is starving and you have no access to food but you know a lost rich man who does....your position is that the you should not ask the rich man to feed the starving man because the rich man is lost. Therefore the starving man must die. Is that your position?


64 posted on 11/15/2007 12:08:05 PM PST by reflecting
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To: reflecting
"Is it not wonderful the Jesus does not exclude the sleazy people....maybe you were once a sleazy person"

Rick Warren is not Jesus. However, Jesus did get angry when he cast the moneychangers out of the temple. Do you think that there may be discussions about raising money to send condoms to Africa to help prevent AIDs at this meeting?

65 posted on 11/15/2007 12:11:30 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: ZGuy

If Hildabeast666 were ever put on trial for being a Christian, she would be acquitted due to lack of evidence.


66 posted on 11/15/2007 12:14:28 PM PST by RooRoobird20
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To: Badeye
Golly Gee! Will Joy Behar bring up Seperation of Church and state today over this?

Too bad Elizabeth's on maternity leave. She would bring it up. The others would try to shout her down. Babwa would admonish her and plead for calm. Guests would refuse to come on because of Elizabeth's 'extremism'. It would be an entertaining week. Joy won't even bat an eyelash, nothing to see here. Now, if it were an 'evil' Republican...

67 posted on 11/15/2007 12:15:21 PM PST by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: fortunecookie

Yep.

The View doesn’t seem to realize what they are reinforcing by always having a minimum three to one ratio with the ‘conservative’ always being on the short side.

Same goes for that idiot midget, big time hypocrite, Bill Maher come to think of it.


68 posted on 11/15/2007 12:17:49 PM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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To: Lancey Howard

“Is “Rick Warren” somebody?”

He thinks he is.....


69 posted on 11/15/2007 12:25:54 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: reflecting

False choice. There is plenty of Christian humanitarian work going on around the world, all without the benefit of input or help from the likes of Hillary and Obama. Speaking of which, just what are Hillary and Obama’s great humanitarian accomplishments? Blowing lots of self-aggrandizing hot air, taking credit for the work of others, and donating Bubba’s used underwear to Goodwill and taking a tax deduction for it don’t count.


70 posted on 11/15/2007 12:28:43 PM PST by Cecily
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To: ZGuy

I have no respect for the man. I can’t understand his popularity. He, too, is a micro-managing do-gooder who has become a shill for the Democrats. Shame on him for giving a podium to such a deceitful, scheming witch.


71 posted on 11/15/2007 12:29:47 PM PST by MHT
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg

Well, it is not like we Calvinists haven’t been warning people about the methods of Saddleback for some time. Perhaps, now, instead of getting the tired mantra of “Calvinists hate everything and everyone,” they might actually listen to us.


72 posted on 11/15/2007 12:39:00 PM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Gamecock

Is this a joke???


73 posted on 11/15/2007 12:42:38 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Rummyfan
Hillary will say that she tried to get AIDS, but was turned down becasue she’s a woman.

HA!

74 posted on 11/15/2007 12:43:07 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Elpasser; HarleyD; TommyDale; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; shaggy eel; My2Cents; jumpdrive; ...

Many people have been seeing what a fraud he was since he released Purpose Driven Church in 1992 (he had a large prerelease however in the years before that).

This guy is amazingly blatant now in the apostate road he’s been traveling down since them.


75 posted on 11/15/2007 12:45:47 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: onedoug

hear hear!

(see you and I agree on something)


76 posted on 11/15/2007 12:46:31 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: onedoug

BTW he’s also a traitor to the cause of Christ by preaching “another” gospel.


77 posted on 11/15/2007 12:46:52 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: reflecting
if a man is starving and you have no access to food

Are you reading your own drivel? If I have no access to food then I WOULD BE the starving man, would'nt I?

Here's another clue -- If you have to twist your logic into a mobius strip of non-sequitars to justify your position, there is probably something quite wrong with what you are trying to justify.

If Warren is concerned with AIDS in Africa, than perhaps a cut of his book deals could be routed there.

If her Thighness Chthulu wants to help with the African AIDS problem, I'm sure our church could find a place for her on our next mission tripto Swaziland. As long as she is willing to get in line and obey our pastor unquestioningly and know her place a follower, not as some one that should be thought of as important.

But letting an ally of the evil one himself, a proven liar and hater, get up in a church and spew is so far beyond anything that can be squared in the christian faith that it is mind boggling to me that anyone would say "What's the problem?"

< shaking head incredulously >

78 posted on 11/15/2007 12:48:55 PM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Terriergal; indylindy; Sue Perkick

He’s nothing more than a liberal hippie in a conservative sheep’s clothing, espousing Global Warming and all the other liberal causes. What should anyone expect from an old hippie?
I hope he loses his IRS tax exempt status for this. I intend to file an official complaint, everyone here should do the same.


79 posted on 11/15/2007 12:49:01 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Rodm

Thank you! I chuckled over “Love Your Enemies” being tagged as “Creativity.” Too true! :)


80 posted on 11/15/2007 12:53:43 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: reflecting

Well let’s hope and pray that Rick shares the plan of salvation with Mrs. Clinton. It may be too late, as many times that surely she has heard it.


81 posted on 11/15/2007 12:53:48 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Badeye
Yep. The View doesn’t seem to realize what they are reinforcing by always having a minimum three to one ratio with the ‘conservative’ always being on the short side. Same goes for that idiot midget, big time hypocrite, Bill Maher come to think of it.

I think so, too - some of the time. Sometimes I think they do realize what they are reinforcing but don't want us to think it. I got the distinct impression, as an occasional at best viewer, that after the departure of Star and with the addition of Rosie, they had wanted to turn Elizabeth into a work in progress - show the audience the 'silliness' of her conservative views and how to educate and change her into a good leftie. But she would have none of it. When the show first started, during the Clintoon years, they seemed to be a bit more fair and balanced, but, imho, it quickly turned from The View into THE View, as in only one 'correct' view.

Maher never really tried to present more than one viewpoint, and launched into attacks on any who disagreed, like Rosie. He seems to be one scary, mean, dark, sad person. Rosie, too.

But they hate it when we point out their obvious flaws! ;-)

82 posted on 11/15/2007 12:54:18 PM PST by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: TommyDale

I wondered where you’ve been!


83 posted on 11/15/2007 12:59:33 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: TommyDale

I printed off and sent in a complaint against Sojourners/Jim Wallis/Call to Renewal too.


84 posted on 11/15/2007 1:03:49 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Haven’t you heard? Hillary is a Methodist and that must mean she is a Christian because she wants to do the right thing, be the right person for all that ails the US/World...(s/ off)
Maranatha


85 posted on 11/15/2007 1:05:02 PM PST by Right_Rev (But for the Grace of God...there go I)
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To: Lord_Calvinus; Dr. Eckleburg

Just because people say we’re cranky doesn’t mean we are wrong.


86 posted on 11/15/2007 1:07:18 PM PST by Gamecock (Gamecock: Declared anathema by the Council of Trent!)
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To: Terriergal
Anyone who quotes Dennis Prager on their Freepage is okay by me.

Best to You and Yours.

87 posted on 11/15/2007 2:03:25 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Yeah, hard to know what RW might have been thinking going to Syria. It would seem to legitimize this terror promoting country’s leader.


88 posted on 11/15/2007 2:12:12 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: ZGuy

Will Hillary have a special accent when she speaks at this church?


89 posted on 11/15/2007 2:20:40 PM PST by Danette ("If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: ZGuy

Not the first time the devil attended church. In fact, he goes most Sundays...


90 posted on 11/15/2007 2:25:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: reflecting
NO I’m not, as church families we often work to accomplish material goals....we stop and pay the light bill, we have the local police share at camp about safety.....

That's not the same thing as inviting a mormon to speak in your church

Why AIDS anyway? Is no one else dying in California?

91 posted on 11/15/2007 3:00:52 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Lancey Howard

Only he & his sheeple think so.


92 posted on 11/15/2007 5:58:51 PM PST by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what Iíve done here today doesnít force you to have a negative opinion of meÖ.)
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To: Rodm

Thanks for posting - I’ve saved it for use, as it will come in handy.


93 posted on 11/15/2007 7:11:55 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Gamecock

Rick Warren is lookin’ a bit like Michael Moore (if Moore would shower).


94 posted on 11/15/2007 7:12:59 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: reflecting
2 Words

Chuck Smith.......
95 posted on 11/15/2007 7:15:56 PM PST by cmsgop (Hillary's Milkshake is better than Your's, She could teach you, but you would rather go blind.......)
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To: L,TOWM
Nice try at avoiding the question. Try not to be insulting. Try to talk as if the person you are talking to or about is looking to you for an example of the Lord who saved you. The one who was your friend before you were His.

Warren lives a very modest life style, his money does go into the ministry. Do you know anything about Warren at all?

96 posted on 11/15/2007 7:52:50 PM PST by reflecting
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To: ZGuy

Rich is a phony and this proves it.


97 posted on 11/15/2007 7:56:35 PM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
A Mormon can't speak at your church.....why not....? Are the people of your church so confused about the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that a Mormon talking about Aids would be a risk?

maybe aids because that is where the Lord has led, some people help alcoholics, some help the hungry, some help unwed mothers...

98 posted on 11/15/2007 7:59:37 PM PST by reflecting
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To: MEGoody

no it does not.....when I help build the local children’s park, I am not endorsing the wild partying life style of the people working with me.


99 posted on 11/15/2007 8:02:16 PM PST by reflecting
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To: SHEENA26
I think one these posters's tag line is one you should really consider. (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)

That scripture cuts both ways....you better hope you are right about Rick Warren, because if you are not you have brought the "Woe" of God onto yourself.....

100 posted on 11/15/2007 8:06:17 PM PST by reflecting
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