Posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:26 PM PST by aomagrat
Edited on 12/09/2007 12:59:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
[I waited 45 seconds and actually posted something substantial--Ed.]
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — At least four people were shot outside of a Colorado Springs church on Sunday, but it was not immediately known whether the shootings were related to an earlier shooting about 70 miles away, authorities said.
My daughter mentioned that last night... She asked “I wonder if this person would’ve been charged with a hate crime”. If there indeed is a second person in custody (has this been confirmed?), and he turns out to be a white male, then odds are the answer will be “no” even if it is shown that he had anti-Christian beliefs. And especially not if he self-identified as a Christian at any point in his life...
One musicl label is called “murder Inc.”. It’s that odd?
I forgot the link. This is a major label mind you...respected in the rap community so to speak. :-p
http://www.google.com/search?q=murder+inc&hl=en
I can’t type worth a hoot today. My apologies..
What does this have to do with the incident we are discussing though? If he was a homeschooled Christian white male (which some reports are hinting at), then odds are he doesn’t listen to gangsta rap...
Would listening to ganster rap, or playing violent games lead one to commit mass murders? I would honestly say ONLY if that person has a propensity to do these things in the first place. Listening to these songs, or playing these games does NOT make someone commit these crimes...
It reminds me of something a teacher of mine mentioned back in High School — that there was a study that “proved” listening to rock music increses teen pregnancy (and this was way before talk of sex was open in the music itself). They had supposedly interviewed pregnant teens and found that something like 90% of them had listened to rock music in the 24 hours before becoming pregnant and thus it was the music that “made them do it”.
Do I disagree that listening to gangster rap for instance doesn’t influence people? Of course not, but it would only have the effect you are referring to if that person didn’t already have the propensity to commit these types of acts in the first place... Again, it leads back to troubled people... That is the common denominator in ALL such actions of this type. IMHO, what these people played as far as games, or what their taste in music is really doesn’t have much bearing on how to stop this in the future.
but it won’t be seen as a hate crime...
= =
Yup.
True.
Because the NWO traitors have been passing out
HATE CHRISTIANS FREE cards
like candy by every means available for some time.
There is a correlation . . . but I’d have to look it up for details. Don’t carry it in active easy recall memory.
“Of course not, but it would only have the effect you are referring to if that person didn’t already have the propensity to commit these types of acts in the first place...”
CORRECTION:
What it should say is, “... it would only have the effect you are referring to if that person already had the propensity to commit...”
My apologies for not reading through and editing before posting. :)
“murder Inc”
odd?
I suppose.
Evil, CERTAINLY.
I just read an article that was recently posted, and it seems like he might have targeted that particular van, not that he didn’t intend on killing more though.
The two girls killed in that van were involved with YWAM and had recently been on a YWAM trip to China, and frequented the Arvada training center. So it doesn’t seem they would be random targets, imho.
That was my thinking as well. The fact that those killed were mostly younger people, and not random parishoners/staffers in both incidents would lead one to speculate that the shooter had a grudge of some sort against these young people.
The original question was
"...How much effect does the violent and gruesome video games that young kids play factor in to these shooting en mass type killings?...
My initial reply was that I am unaware of any studies that attempt to correlate the two. I just threw the infamous name 'murder inc.' rap label out there as an example of what I would refer to as odd. I also believe a lot of media desensitizes people in some ways...the more exposure to certain subjects in "various games, music etc", the more desensitized. As far as being predisposed to certain behaviours..., we can only assume that the desensitization only encourages those who have the propensity. But that's just my opinion.
I tend to lean towards the biblical perspective rather than sociological. The war between evil and good.
Yep, it falls under that category too. It made me sick when I found out about that name. It was shocking.
The rise of more realistic violent first-person shooter video games correlated fairly nicely with a rapid DROP in murder and violent crimes (overall).
If you’re going to realistically point at a cause for mass shootings, it’s the media covereage of previous events; obviously not possible given the 1st Amendment, but I’m quite serious in saying that if a complete news blackout were imposed on these mass shootings they’d pretty much stop in 2-3 years.
Most municipalities have access to the robots. I saw one that belonged to the WV State Police Bomb Squad recently. It was an extremely cool model that was made in England.
I am told there are three of these things in my state available on call 24-7.
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I would think that area would have a few,,,
Local LEO got one a year or so ago that will drag a person.
Given that the media has pulled the reports it can’t be assumed to be accurate.
But it’s interesting how the rate of postings on both this thread and the Wichita Mall thread seemed to slow markedly once names were released.
http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh144.sht
1. This is my Father's world,
and to my listening ears
all nature sings, and round me rings
the music of the spheres.
This is my Father's world:
I rest me in the thought
of rocks and trees, of skies and seas;
his hand the wonders wrought.
2. This is my Father's world,
the birds their carols raise,
the morning light, the lily white,
declare their maker's praise.
This is my Father's world:
he shines in all that's fair;
in the rustling grass I hear him pass;
he speaks to me everywhere.
3. This is my Father's world.
O let me ne'er forget
that though the wrong seems oft so strong,
God is the ruler yet.
This is my Father's world:
why should my heart be sad?
The Lord is King; let the heavens ring!
God reigns; let the earth be glad!
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