German Fascism Is Conquering Kosovo!

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[kronos77]

Kosovo will declare its independence from Serbia any day now. Serbia, Russia and a handful of other states ardently oppose this decision, but that will not stop Kosovo from breaking away. This should make us wonder: How can such a minute little province act so boldly?

A few days prior to this announcement Wolfgang Ischinger, the German diplomat responsible for representing the EU in its policy toward Kosovo, gave the world a glimpse of his vision of what Kosovo’s independence might look like. “It will be a state entity,” he said, “which will continue to be under broad international observation. The nato troops will continue to be deployed there. A further international presence of the UN and, consequently, of EU, will be ensured.” Even now the European Union is making plans to replace the UN in Kosovo.

Ultimately, this is the reason the tiny province of Kosovo can defy the powerful armies of Serbia and Russia: It has the backing of Europe.

It gets worse: The United States has been duped into supporting Germany and Europe as they back Kosovo’s quest for independence. The Serbs fought on our side in two world wars, and Germany fought against us in both of those wars. Since 1991, that alliance has been reversed, and America has supported Germany and Europe as they have helped bring about the dissolution of Yugoslavia.

History shows that Serbia is no threat to Europe or America, but Germany has routinely been a dangerous threat to Europe and the world! And whether we realize it or not, it still is today—far more so than in the past. It has often been said that truth is the first casualty of war. That probably has never been more true than in the Yugoslav wars.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“I don’t see where anyone wrote that? Correct me if I’m wrong!”

Here’s the passage that struck me: “History shows that Serbia is no threat to Europe or America, but Germany has routinely been a dangerous threat to Europe and the world!”

We’re still in the world, right? :)

[kronos77]

Well.... last two of the World Wars were started by Germany... riiiiight?

[kronos77]

Yes. Never forget, Hitlers idea was “United Europe”...
Ein Volk, Ein Reich... Ein Fuhrer...

One Europe, One Govermnent, One Leader... EU...4th reich...
(you may compare it with UN aswell, as I heard they plan to build UNs standing army...)

[austrian]

Well.... last two of the World Wars were started by Germany... riiiiight?

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no wroooooong? educate yourself before you try to bash someone. WWI was started by austria. you make me wonder you bash germany because of serbia and then you don´t know that austria started WWI because we invaded serbia.

[vladimir998]

And how did that work for them? The simple fact is the Germans are terrified of war...with anyone. They don’t have the courage to be anyone’s enemy.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

Merry Christmas Kronos. And, I hope all is well with you, your mother, and your family.:-)

Ljubivoje

[kronos77]

WWI was started not by attack on Serbia herself, but by GERMAN declaration of war against Russia and France.

The year of 1914 would be a start of a war Austria against Serbia and Russia.

Germany, was affraid for possible defeat os Austrians and intervened than France and Britain did also...

SO,

Actually I am right, WWI WAS started by fright of Serb victory...

Much like these days...

[kronos77]

Thanks, marry Christmass to you too, things are getting better:)

[BobS]

Slovenia is an independent country now and I heard it's a nice place. Close to Austria.

During World War 2, 250,000 German soldiers died in those countries. That is why Patton was able to go to Sicily from North Africa and to Italy and farther north. Spain was supposedly not aligned. If you go to the beach at Benidorm, not far from Alicante, there are concrete walkways right under the water that go out into the ocean. That's where ships picked up supplies. Franco was not a friend of Hitler.

Check that beach out in Summer. Women run around topless there to give their titties a sunburn.

[Banat]

btw. germany does not hold a special place in EU

Germany can bitch-slap the entire EU (minus Britain, cause they just don't get bitch-slapped around, period) whenever it wants to. Don't give me the crap about equality.

Germany is THE most powerful country in Europe economically and they *have* used that to bully other EU countries into toeing their line.

However, don't forget Russia. The Bear has left the cave and it ain't going back in for a while.

[F-117A]

...Germany has routinely been a dangerous threat to Europe and the world!”

Kind of hard to deny that!

It was German policy and leadership that lead to the breakup of Yugoslavia and the resulting civil wars. The EC had been 11-1 against the breakup, with only Germany in favor. When the "persuasive logic" or arm twisting was done, the EC was unanimously in favor.

The Bosnia civil war led to the rise of al-Qa'ida. As, Schindler has said, "If the foundation of al-Qa'ida was laid in Afghanistan, the major construction took place in the Balkans. It was only in the 1990s, in Bosnia, that the 'Che Guevara of Islam' really came into his own, developing Al-Qa'ida into the flexible, well-funded multinational jihadi organization it became."

Then came 9/11.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Kind of hard to deny that!”

In the last 60 years Germany wasn’t a threat to anyone except in soccer.

“It was German policy and leadership that lead to the breakup of Yugoslavia and the resulting civil wars.”

No, that was communist and Serbian oppression. Please have a clue. Would Croatia want to be separate from Serbia because of the Germans of the 1990s or because it always thought it should be a separate nation not dominated by Serbia? Come on!

“The EC had been 11-1 against the breakup, with only Germany in favor. When the “persuasive logic” or arm twisting was done, the EC was unanimously in favor.”

And it wasn’t Germany that made the Slovenians want to have their own country, or Croatia, or Bosnian Muslims, or the Albanians, etc. All of these groups wanted to be separate from Serbia for their own nationalistic and religious reasons. It really has nothing to do with Germany.

“The Bosnia civil war led to the rise of al-Qa’ida.”

Wow, you’re really getting off track now. That still had nothing to do with Germany.

“As, Schindler has said, “If the foundation of al-Qa’ida was laid in Afghanistan, the major construction took place in the Balkans. It was only in the 1990s, in Bosnia, that the ‘Che Guevara of Islam’ really came into his own, developing Al-Qa’ida into the flexible, well-funded multinational jihadi organization it became.””

Well, that says a whole lot of nothing concerning the subject at hand.

“Then came 9/11.”

And that too was not Germany’s fault. Nor was it the fault of Bosnian Muslims. It was the fault of Muslim terrorists based in Afghanistan.

[FormerLib]

His hatred of the Serbian Orthodox Christians blinds him to the threat posed by the Jihadists that the Serbs are fighting.

The West is on the wrong side of this war.

[Banat]

No, that was communist and Serbian oppression.

Wow. By far the most stupid claim I've read this week. Croatia was run by the local (Croatian) offshoot of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia itself was run by a Croat communist (Tito).

I think your paranoia is getting in the way of historical facts.

Serbia should have never helped these ingrates in the first place. Bar none, the biggest mistake ever made by Serbia was the decision to form a common state with Croats and Slovenes.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Wow. By far the most stupid claim I’ve read this week. Croatia was run by the local (Croatian) offshoot of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia itself was run by a Croat communist (Tito).”

Communism is evil. Why should it not be overthrown? Also, I think you’re kidding yourself as to who “ran” Yugoslavia in the 1990s. Croatia had to force Serbian troops out of its country. They were there in the guise of the Yugoslavian army: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/croatia.htm
“I think your paranoia is getting in the way of historical facts.”

I think you imagine paranoia when you have no argument or facts.

“Serbia should have never helped these ingrates in the first place. Bar none, the biggest mistake ever made by Serbia was the decision to form a common state with Croats and Slovenes.”

I don’t see how it was ever help to the Croats and Slovenes to dominate them in a state they didn’t want in the first place. Serbia will never realize its vain dreams of a Greater Serbia.

[Banat]

Croatia had to force Serbian troops out of its country.

This is good. There were NO Serbian troops in existence. Hadn't existed since 1918. There were federal troops - at the time commanded by (mostly) Croat generals. Yugoslavia's Government itself was headed by a Croat prime minister (A. Markovich).

I think you imagine paranoia when you have no argument or facts.

I just gave you the facts and then some.

Serbia will never realize its vain dreams of a Greater Serbia.

Ha-ha. Pull the other one. This line is about a hundred years old and it's as ridiculous now as it was then. It was used by Austria-Hungary to deflect attention from their own expansionism (such as the annexation of Serbian-majority Bosnia in 1908).

[modican]

Kosovo will declare its independence from Serbia any day now



Kosovo is ~100x100 miles and has 2.2 mill people. The only purpose of this is to take another junk of land away from Serbia. In europe, they have "sayings" that go back centuries regarding the serbs. They are always trouble. True or not, the Serbs were the strongest supporters of Communism during Tito, they have a different language and use cyrillic letters like russian. For all practical purpose they should become another russian republic. The rest belongs to the eurozone.
The negative german talk is not because Germany is strong, but America becomes weak and worried.
Germany is and always was a very efficient industrial manufacturing nation, while the US developed video games and teaches it's kids to smile and work at Burger King or deliver Pizza.
The great reckoning has begun.
....how does it feel...........to be... on the other side!

[kronos77]

:)))))))))))))))))))

1. Serbs barely survived communism. Communists ousted serbian royal dynasty, cancelled religion, prohibited Serb refugees from returning to Kosovo, grabed land and factories owned mostly by the Serbs, even replaced Serbian Cyrilic alphabet with Latin alphabet.

2. Why Serbs disslike Germans? Lets see... WWI Serbs lost entire country and were dforced to go to the exile to Greece with entire army, royal family and government. During WWI Serbs lost 25% of entire population.

Second world war, Serbs lost arround 1,000,000 people 700,000 of whome in Jasenovac contrentracion camp.

“Civilised” Germans (And Croates) executed 100 for 1. For each killed german soldier 100 Serbs to be shot, for each wounded 50 Serbs to be shot. For that matter only in Kragujevac 4,000 civillians were executed along with 400 schoolkids.

Year of 1999. Germans came back for more. Germany killing Serbs for 3rd time in 20th century. And they came back with therir old allies, Croates, Albanians and Muslims.

Sad to say, but USA and EU have for friends same nationms that were friends with Hitler and Stalin...

Now, just to explain this. After all, Serbs hate policy of US government, but, dont hate USA.

in the other hand just a word “German” means- “bastard”. And it is an insoult to call someone in Serba “A German”.

For Serbs, Germans are not nation, they are bunch of barbarians untill they proove otherwise.
So far they didnt even bothered.

[Cerb]

Ahhh I almost missed those “Fourth Reich marching” “Evil Germans set out to conquer the world - again” threads.

First of all, in the last three decades it weren’t the Germans who gang-raped and slaughtered thousands of people.
Could you say the same for Serbs and Croatians? So please spare me the WW II arguments, they don’t have anything to do with the topic.

The Balkans always were a region with many problems and I admit that is partly due to the fact that many of the more powerful European countries had only their own interests in mind. However, I feel that most of the problems there exist because of the same old difficulties: people with different religions are forced to live together, one people believing to be superior to the other people. I can’t see a way how they could ever live together in peace again in the same state after what happened in the past.

From this thread I only get the impression that the Serbs and their neighbours blame their own failure on the most convenient target: Germany.

What the US is to Western Europe, Germany is to Eastern Europe. Easy to blame if something goes wrong, because everyone knows they won’t bother to answer the accusations, and a good way to ignite nationalistic feelings and win elections.

[Michael81Dus]

Not a bad observation. I tend to agree with you on that. Hope you had a merry Christmas.

Best regards from Germany!