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Where does a Conservative go?(Vanity)
My feckless brain ^ | Me

Posted on 01/20/2008 1:18:25 AM PST by TexasMatty

As a Conservative I am lost. I will not, under any circumstances vote for John Mclame. He has sold Conservatives out. Nor will I vote for Jesus' favorite candidate Schmuckabee. I believe the most Conservative candidate is Thompson and can't help but wonder who is voting in these things. If Mclame or Schmuckabee is the nominee I can't vote. It will pain me deeply to not vote, but either of those clowns are no different from the lefty. Me question to my FRiends is.. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO??? The situation seems rather desperate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: desperate; desperatehousecons; desperation; sc2008; voteforpaul
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To: Candor7
The race for the presidency is now over.

For my country's sake, I hope you're wrong.

Your own tagline says "Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing".

Saying/doing nothing would include sitting by and letting Hillary or Obama dismantle our national security. Despite my disagreements with the GOP candidates, every one of them will be stronger on national defense than those two. All I can do is ask you to consider that.

101 posted on 01/20/2008 3:39:44 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: ovrtaxt

oh Please, don’t bring rue paul in. Rue Paul is a moron, as is his cult. Lets talk about what the party needs to do sans dr.leary.


102 posted on 01/20/2008 3:48:03 AM PST by TexasMatty (Trekkers for Paul!!, http://www.chrispeden.org/ !!!)
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To: TexasMatty

The only thing that can be done now is to unite two fractions of the party by putting two candidates together...one will be left out of the three(fiscal/values/security). It stinks.


103 posted on 01/20/2008 3:52:08 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: TexasMatty

You will have another choice. It’s called Hillary.


104 posted on 01/20/2008 3:57:50 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What’s wrong with Romney??

Rhetorical question that I'll answer anyway since you asked.

He's done nothing in Mass but rubberstamp Socialist boondoggles, and put liberals on the bench. He openly stated that he's in favor of AWB and state mandates when it comes to healthcare. No concept of constitutionally limited government.

More creeping socialism? No thanks. Incrementalism only works if your opponent is the one giving ground. Fred Thompson is fine. Rudy, Huck, Romney? Nope. Let's leave the creeping socialism to the Dems. Won't tolerate it from our side anymore.

He would move the party left if nominated, and move the country left if elected. Electable? I would prefer he not be. I'm not defining my standards down any farther.

105 posted on 01/20/2008 4:00:58 AM PST by CowboyJay (I'm not bending over for 'man-dates'. Just say no to RiNO's.)
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To: Timeout
letting Hillary or Obama dismantle our national security.........................

Despite my disagreements with the GOP candidates, every one of them will be stronger on national defense than those two. .....................

In order to prevent the dismantling of our national security , our supposed "GOP" president would need to have military experience. Without that experience they are of little use in preventing the dismantling of our security. That is already happening, haven't you noticed? Google the name "Hesham Islam," for example.

I am afraid there is no difference between the present GOP line up's ability to secure our nation and that of the Democrats. They are all on the same level of ability.

THe Islamofasists are dancing in their streets after yesterday's primary results.They have turned the corner and know it.

But then, no one was really treating national security as an important issue. Do you think McCain can save us? LOL. He thinks waterborading is torture,and wants amnesty for illegals even though their is a war going on in Mexico within sight of the border between drug lords and the Mexican army.

Romney? Double LOL. He has no idea even what combat is or what its like to command men who go into harms way.

Neither of them will get to second base in the ball game thats about to begin after Super Tuesday.

As to the Dems, they will remake the US Forces into a peace corps. And that will be very little difference as to what either McCain or Romney will do as they bring our troops home prematurely from Afghanistan and Iraq. That is their plan.

No, its over.And conservatives know it, and the best that can be done is to hunker down, vote conscientiously, and watch the shite fly. We are no longer a part of the apprehended electorate as a defined group. The GOP defined us out of existance with a will in 2006 via the gang of 14.

And the GOP does not want us back.

So I remain conservative but independant.I noo longer hold any loyalty to the Republican Party.

106 posted on 01/20/2008 4:01:24 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Mccain will have to be at the top of the ticket to beat Hillary.

The VP is the only thing left to choose. Drop Huck and you loose the values voters...drop Romney and you lose the globalists and fiscons.

107 posted on 01/20/2008 4:03:02 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: TexasMatty
The question is this:

Has the demoncrap party shifted so far to the left that the republicans can win without the conservatives? I.E can the republicans form a moderate/centrist party? This strategy has never worked historically. Politcal action requires energy, moderation by default is low energy. The east coast check pant Republicans have a theory that most republicans are middle of the road types, embarassed by conservatives. Face it we FR types, conservatives, are the RINO's now, the us equivalent of the brit torries. Just think, I don't have to give campaign donations any more to the republicrats.

108 posted on 01/20/2008 4:03:53 AM PST by central_va
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To: TexasMatty
Why do we as Conservatives ...

If you read up on Romney with an open mind, you will find that yes, he did make some pandering PC statements in 1994 when trying to oust uber-liberal Ted Kennedy in Massachusetts.

And yes, he was once a VERBAL pro-choice supporter.....

But his record of actual governance is fairly conservative... and had great results.

Romney got good marks from all ProLife organizations (check it out yourself) and from the NRA.

Romney, as Governor of Mass, took a LOT of heat and criticism from the homo and abortion lobby because he refused to support their demands.

90% of the slams against Romney are simply hype from super hard-liners who just cant get past those one or two pandering statements Romney made during the heat of the 1994 campaign.

Ann Coulter, Jay Sekulow, Limbaugh, Sen Jim DeMint, Hugh Hewitt, and dozens of other conservatives see in Romney a refreshing conservative face, one who is NOT afraid to promote and support conservative ideas and issues.

109 posted on 01/20/2008 4:07:19 AM PST by Edit35
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To: TexasMatty

I don’t know.

It’ll be.... Interesting to see how the election turns out if McCain or Huckabee are the nominee.

My husband is MUCH more pragmatic about these things than I am and even he says that he would not, could not vote for either of them.

I might be able to pinch my nose and support Romney but I’m not even sure of that. I’d go kicking and screaming with my heels well dug in.


110 posted on 01/20/2008 4:16:39 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

I’m with you on Romney. He is far more likely to preserve the conservative agenda than McCain is.

Since abortion gets posters riled up the most, let’s look at it objectively. Romney will run on a pro-life position. People here may not believe him, but do you believe a President Romney would want to be re-elected? I do. Having won, he would govern as a pro-life president (judges, etc.) knowing he would have to get the conservative vote for re-election. Even if you dismiss the ideology, political practicality tells you he would do so.

If you can accept that, then I think there’s no question he’s better than McCain (or any Dem) on national security, immigration, taxes...and being an outsider.


111 posted on 01/20/2008 4:24:21 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
So choosing to go to Mass and becoming an instant liberal(but he was really conservative???) then instantly turning conservative right before this campaign does not bother you?

How many red flags does one person need before they realize something is wrong here? Mitt flipped on abortion, gays, health care, immigration, foreign policy...you name.

There is no honor or security in backing this shaky candidate no matter what you value.

112 posted on 01/20/2008 4:26:59 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: DakotaRed

I’m afraid I agree. The idea of America has been doomed by your local government school. They are run by the socialists and have been turned into pinko breeding grounds. Their guiding principles are:
1) Political Correctness
2) Multiculturalism
3) Radical Environmentalism

Your children & grandchildren have been converted before your eyes. The majority of Americans under the age of 40 have been force fed the Kommie Kool Aid by your local government school.

Take back the schools to take back America.


113 posted on 01/20/2008 4:34:03 AM PST by Toaster tank
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To: Bushwacker777

Don’t forget that the Fairness Doctrine will also be passed and implemented, and FR and all of conservative talk radio will go bye-bye! Also, amnesty for illegal immigrants will truly be carried out “to the max”, and illegals will also be allowed to legally vote in all future U.S. elections! And too many of you still think that all of this long-term “damage” to the entire U.S. will all pass after just the next four years? This country is truly finished along with U.S. conservatism!


114 posted on 01/20/2008 4:38:13 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Candor7

The Conservative Movement hasn’t failed. In all instances in my lifetime we have been outnumbered. Even in the best circumstances with Presidents like Reagan and Bush (and admit it they have been better than any of the others in the past fifty years) and Republicans in control of Congress the liberals and moderates have been able to slow or stop Conservative initiatives over and over because our side lacked the votes.

In the 2006 elections we lost several good voting Conservatives like George Allen and Rick Santorum because Conservatives didn’t show up at the polls to support them. Hand wringing negativism and “take my ball and go home” attitudes contributed to that failure to go and vote.

There are too many here on Free Republic that seem eager to see the left take over completely next year thinking it would pave the path for our return in the next cycle. But what if we don’t? Imagine four years of Hillary appointing Federal Judges or Hussein negotiating with Imanutjob to allow the Persians to have nuclear weapons. Imagine that with crooked elections and gerrymandering the left stays in charge for the next 50 years. Surely you don’t really believe that giving up even an inch to the left is a good strategic move?


115 posted on 01/20/2008 4:38:21 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: TexasMatty
My List:

Thompson
Hunter
Tancredo
Romney
Giuliani
McCain
Huckabee
Paul

Romney is the top name remaining on the list, so now it is Romney.

116 posted on 01/20/2008 4:42:47 AM PST by gridlock (300 Million Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary Clinton will be one of them.)
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To: gridlock

Time for a new tag-line


117 posted on 01/20/2008 4:46:22 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: gridlock
Romney is a democrat Trojan candidate. Worse yet.....he is not even a simple pain in-the-butt-moonbat, but more like a cold calculating commie.
118 posted on 01/20/2008 4:48:39 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: gridlock

Now THAT was funny!


119 posted on 01/20/2008 4:50:17 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: TexasMatty

I myself could never in good conscience vote for McCain or Huck, or Rudy. Just can’t. McCain is a traitor to this party, always has been. Rudy is a flaming RINO and so is Huck.

I will go to the polls to vote for state and locals. If we can take back Congress and thwart the democrats, that may be what my contribution is this time.

Might be a good idea to quit trusting many Republicans anymore, its getting hard to tell them apart from a Democrat.


120 posted on 01/20/2008 4:50:28 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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