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Pardon my rant, but I'm serious.
1 posted on 01/22/2008 8:39:01 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Well I think we need to wait and see if someone has enough delegates after all the state elections first. First one to 1078 will be the nominee. Can’t really change the rules after they are made. If a person does not have enough delegates then a convention is the way to go.


2 posted on 01/22/2008 8:40:29 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: neverdem

BTTT for later.


3 posted on 01/22/2008 8:42:40 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: neverdem
Ok I hear what you are saying, but my problem is, (stupidity?) I don’t know how a brokered convention works.
5 posted on 01/22/2008 8:44:58 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican! GoHunter.08)
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To: neverdem

Well, if you are social conservative, why would you vote for any of the three frontrunners?

It’s like the GOP has decided they can safely diss their most motivated and cohesive voting bloc....and it’s going to come back and bite them.


6 posted on 01/22/2008 8:45:31 PM PST by Dreagon
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To: neverdem

Wasted rant.

There will NOT be a brokered convention. No point pining for it, as it would end up just getting Hillary elected anyway. We are better off without it.

But it won’t happen. Here’s why.

Florida is winner take all. McCain is in the lead, Romney is #2. If Romney wins, he will have a clear majority of delegates so far and will have the momentum to take many states including California, and will have the money to effectively be the only one funding a candidacy through the latter primaries. With no competition, he can easily rack up the needed wins.

If McCain wins, he wont have a majority of delegates immediately, but will sweep the board on Feb 5th and get enough to be on the way to a majority.

Either Mitt Romney or John McCain will pick up most of the delegates by March and will be the nominee.

Oh, and Huck has zero chance and Rudy has zero chance. They are fading in polls as we speak and as people recognize that this is a two man race soon to be a 1 man race.

Pick the better of those two and stand by your man. One of them will be the nominee.

End of story.


7 posted on 01/22/2008 8:46:47 PM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: neverdem
I don't know why Fred didn't get more support ...

"If I am not for myself, then who will be for me?"

Thompson exuded diffidence.

8 posted on 01/22/2008 8:47:04 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: neverdem

Where is the updated list of delegates each candidate has so far? I can’t find the link I had for it....thanks in advance


10 posted on 01/22/2008 8:48:29 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Fred couldn't you have waited until the day after my birthday to drop out?)
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To: neverdem
but if it is Romney, I won't be surprised if a lot of the "base" stays home.

Romney will be fine, despite the hysterics of some blinded Romney-haters on FR.

He has more conservative support in the media, on TV, talk radio, and in the Republican base than anyone else.

He is already leading the popular vote, the delegate vote, and the number of state wins.

So, he made a few dumb statements two decades ago which have been twisted and distorted by hysterical romney-haters. Big Deal.

Just think if all conservatives demanded purity from birth till today --- the conservative movement would be dead in the water because NO ONE is 100% acceptable to everyone else.

Romney will attract women, minorities, the intelligent, whites, blacks, Hispanics, and everyone else -- especially once people get a whiff of Hillary or Bomb-o Brack-a.

11 posted on 01/22/2008 8:48:37 PM PST by Edit35
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To: neverdem

No need to apologize. You made good points.

However, I fear a brokered convention for one reason. A losing candidate (or their supporters) will likely go public, claiming that the nomination was finagled (sp?) away from them via unseemly methods.

The MSM will jump on that story like white on rice or stink on...well, you know what I mean. I see them trying to portray our nominee as someone who won via underhanded methods which therefore taints them from the start.

Combine that with the possibility of masses of anti-war (and anti-GOP) protestors outside possibly fighting with the police and/or engaging in civil disobedience - and it’ll be like Chicago 1968 all over again.


12 posted on 01/22/2008 8:48:39 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: neverdem

I have been hoping for a brokered convention for nearly a month now. Best option the GOP has right now...JFK


13 posted on 01/22/2008 8:49:24 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: neverdem

Slightly more than half on this forum prefers Romney as I write this.”

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Only 683 members voted for Romney in the Forum oll...

Thats 52% of people who voted, members and non-members...only 1,194 altogether out of 2,264 voted for Romney.....

Look at the details...

:)


21 posted on 01/22/2008 9:03:27 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: neverdem

I think the media has everthing to do with it. Most people just pay peripheral attention to politics (if at all). The only basis they have for a decision is how the media presents their darlin’s


22 posted on 01/22/2008 9:04:14 PM PST by KTM rider ( SCOTUS '08 it's more than the oval office this time)
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I don't know what those folks in South Carolina were thinking when they voted for Huckabee

It's not that hard to figure out. Huckabee IS an evangelical, rabidly is opposed to abortion and the homosexual agenda and has a great record on social issues.

Like or not, Fred came off as not being particularly interested on those issues.

Some people actually believe these values issues are more important than other issues and want someone to champion them rather than give lip service to them.

23 posted on 01/22/2008 9:08:45 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: neverdem
Save for study tomorrow.

I am hugely disappointed now that Duncan and Fred are out.

I am a Catholic and Romney's religion is small potatoes compared to Huckabee, a Baptist that lies; Guliani, a Catholic who isn't and supports abortion and 'gay rights'; and McCain who is a democrat.

If the choice has to be made, it's Romney.

26 posted on 01/22/2008 9:13:25 PM PST by Eagles6
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This isn’t aimed at you, neverdem, but I’ve been wandering the net tonight reading comments, and I’ve learned something. I thought liberals were the biggest whiners in America, but I was wrong.


28 posted on 01/22/2008 9:27:54 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Nobody cares that you won't vote for so and so, and nobody cares if you don't vote.)
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To: neverdem
A brokered convention could be the Answer!

Finding a Candidate, that respects the strongest “plank points” of each major Candidate could be hard to do. Letting the delegates pick a VP to fill the weaknesses of the Top Dog, would be a show!

Finding a pair {pres & vp} might be do-able. Forcing a VP on McCain could be tough, he seems to want GORE.

29 posted on 01/22/2008 9:30:39 PM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: neverdem

They may get it, and it would make things much mor einteresting.


33 posted on 01/22/2008 9:39:01 PM PST by TBP
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To: neverdem

‘If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for . . but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong.”

“If this is too blind for your taste, consult some well-meaning fool (there is always one around) and ask his advice. Then vote the other way. This enables you to be a good citizen (if such is your wish) without spending the enormous amount of time on it that truly intelligent exercise of franchise requires.”

-Robert Heinlein


41 posted on 01/22/2008 9:52:57 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Nobody cares that you won't vote for so and so, and nobody cares if you don't vote.)
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To: neverdem

Thank you for your rant!

The rest of the line up stinks.
I’m praying for a brokered convention.

I’m serious, too.


43 posted on 01/22/2008 9:54:18 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: neverdem
A brokered convention may well be in the cards ... but it's an end effect of something else; namely, the fact that the idiots in charge of both parties have seriously screwed the pooch by their handling of the primary election process.

Clearly the primary process does not work well -- the impetus for moving them ever earlier was so that this or that state would be able to "have a say" in who the eventual nominee would be.

Moreover, the egregious sound-bite charades of the so-called "debates" are utterly inadequate to properly educate the public on the positions and abilities of the various candidates. The media and party leaders are complicit in this, too.

I haven't got a good alternative to offer ... but that's no bar to pointing out the problems with the current system.

44 posted on 01/22/2008 9:57:18 PM PST by r9etb
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