Skip to comments.Who Said Freddy's Dead? (Hope for Fredheads?)
Posted on 01/24/2008 4:55:53 AM PST by Scarchin
If McCain loses in Florida, the Republicans may well be headed to a deadlocked race and convention. And history teaches us that the likeliest candidate to emerge in that scenario is someone like Warren G. Harding: the prototypical, less-than-stellar candidate to which conventions turn when the going gets rough.
This year's Harding? Believe it or not (are you sitting down?), despite the fact that he's withdrawn from the race, is Fred Thompson.
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Now they are tormenting us. Not nice.
I’m not gonna hold my breathe.
I am going to vote for Fred, regardless of whether he is on the ballot.
Send the message.
Would a two young guys ticket make you happy? Edwards & Obama? Age should be a non issue here.
Nice thought, but with the field narrowed down, I don’t think we’ll see a brokered convention unless Rudy can muster some enthusiasm and pick up some steam to compete with Rommey and McCain. Otherwise, it’ll be one of those two.
“Would a two young guys ticket make you happy?”
It isn’t what makes me happy that’s important. It’s what voters will vote for. People look for what they believe is a balanced ticket, and looks and age do come into play, whether you like it or not.
I’m just being realistic.
2 old guys? Of the last ten presidents, only two were less than 54 when they were elected - JFK and Bill Clinton. Of course, Clinton’s second co-presidency would start when he is 61.5...oops. sorry, I forgot Carter who was a bit over 52. (G-d is great. He let me forget)
Less than one-third of our presidents were under 54 when first elected, and fewer than half were under 60 when they retired. It is not a young man’s job. The younger ones are not a really distinguished group (Clinton - 1st co-presidency, Kennedy, Garfield, Pierce, Polk) The one exception is the youngest - TR...but I don’t see a TR on the horizon, do you?
FRed is not older than the baby boomers, fellers. He just didn’t go the botox route.
Sorry - more like “out to pasture.”
The subject was McCain -who would be the oldest man elected, and Thompson, who would look like the oldest man elected. I’m sorry, but people vote with their eyes.
People like a balanced ticket, politically and physically.
I think A Romney/Thompson ticket would achieve that rather well (though I’m not a big fan of Romney)
For the least drastic step, in the primary, a 5 or 10% showing for Thompson (who has dropped out, mind you) would send a serious message to the machinery that we are pissed.
A more drastic measure (and one I will take) is a similar message against RINOs in general elections. Reasonable minds may disagree with the approach here, fearing DimRats — I, however, don’t care.
I knew women vote with their eyes, but I thought men had brains.
Yes, when it comes to politics, I probably am a misogynist. How else do you explain the rise of JFK (hair), Carter (hair, Quayle (hair), Edwards (hair), Clinton (lip biting), Gore, Dukakis, Mondale (hair)?
Pride goes before destruction. Y’all might want to keep that in mind.
No. 1, I don’t think the establishment at the convention would select Fred.
No. 2, I don’t think Fred would accept. I don’t think he wanted it bad enough. No one who really is serious drops out after campaigning in only 2 primary states just because he came in 3rd. Look at Edwards and Huckabee. They are still trudging onward, even though their chances are slim. He should have stayed in for just 2 more weeks until Super Tuesday.
Hopefully, I’m totally wrong about all this, and I will be the first one to be glad if I am. I feel like there was a true conservative in the race, and then I woke up and found out that it was only a dream after all. I’m not taking this well at all.
Fred winning the nomination in a brokered convention would be awesome.
I like that idea.
Too bad, cause he's been trying to be the party kingmaker by virtue of his name for some years now.
Even to me, a Fred supporter, I have to admit; thats funny.
We gotta laugh to keep from crying these days.
I don’t blame FRED for getting out. FRED’s mother is ill and FRED knows what his priorities are. If it is meant to be that FRED is to be our President, it will be. GOD will see to it. I think the scenario described in this article are very plausible. I certainly cannot get excited about any of the rest left. Huckabee outlasted FRED, it does not seem possible. Duncan endorsed Huckabee?
LMAO, you brought back memories there!
I never got that idea. Seemed more like Giuliani at first, then John McCain. I never got the idea that Fred was a favorite of any one in the GOP leadership. That being said, I'd be THRILLED if Fred were chosen at a brokered convention!!
That’s what I said....
Why does Michael Reagan care? He left the Republican party years ago. I don't think many in the Republican party would be able to trust Newt to be conservative anymore. I know I won't.
I think you're wrong, but time will tell.
Sadly, that's why many decided not to vote for him, because he wasn't a 'pretty boy'. They didn't care that he had the best message of ALL the candidates, he didn't fit their image of the ideal candidate, because he had a few miles on his face.
Says you. Your opinion on the matter isn’t worth zot.
I think you answered your own question. We weren't wrong in thinking that Fred was the best candidate in the race. Unfortunately for us and for our country, our primary system needs some work, for the very reason you stated.
I just hope Fred’s channeling Sun Tzu :)
Great. Cheer on your religious socialist. He’s not going anywhere.
O, say can you see
by the dawn’s early light
what so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Fred’s gone and so’s my dawn.
Nicely said. I’m with you and in a political funk. There’s no candidate on the horizon. They all reek. It’s somewhat depressing to hear others trying to turn their sow’s-ear candidate into a silk purse. Can’t be done. Hence, my tagline.
If only chocolate would bring Fred back.
Your tagline says it all.
We need to be preparing for 2012.
What kind of young, articulate conservatives do we have playing on the farm teams that we can call up?
Once a candidate drops out with virtually no delegates, there is nothing to bargain with.
In the past, names have changed as to the VP, but the president must have something going in. At least a national following of some sort.
Fred does not had any of this to any large degree and was late to the party. In fact, the only Fred heads I have seen are here on this forum.
A losing candidate like Huckabee would be far more likely to broker for delegates then Fred, and he has little to no chance.
Fred is out. Unless there is someone in the wings who can mount a sudden following and swoon delegates, the candidate will come from the 4 who are left and they will have delegates to horse trade with. But I'm not sure about Rudy, so there may only be three, and probably only two.
He endorsed someone - mccainniac or the huckster - which took him off the conservative agenda.
Yeah, but It's more likely the 2014 midterms will be the first possible election where the base has returned to sanity. There is a huge battle to be fought between now and then and it will take some time to air the room out.
Jimmuh Carter II.
He likes Ron Paul.
wrong- He had endorsed Fred and is ‘said’ to be considering Paul but that hasn’t been confirmed by him.
He’s so conservative most of the Republican base couldn’t recognize the fact it it crawled up their noses.
I hate to break it to you but the truth is that Ron Paul IS IN FACT the only true conservative left in this three ring circus.....and that’s coming at ya from a die hard FreadHead who is using a space heater to attempt warming toward Romney.
RP is trying to bring it back into the mainstream, but it's dead.
Pat Buchanan tried as well, but he failed miserably.
I don't give it a minutes worth of attention, nor should anyone.
The Democrats have their Dixiecrats, and we have RP, and PB.