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McCain much better than Romney for Social Conservatives
Myth Debunker | 01/27/08 | Yomin Postelnik

Posted on 01/28/2008 4:33:47 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik

As is usually the case in politics, in recent weeks we’ve seen a lot of unfair bashing of John McCain as well as gross distortion of his record. Of the two or three candidates with a shot winning the nomination, only John McCain has been a consistent conservative, dating back to before President Reagan.

The issues on which he differs with the party are never moral in nature and even then, he's never supported a tax increase and was only opposed to the last two major tax cuts because they contained no curbs on spending.

Romney sounds conservative now, but has a history of switching positions whichever way the wind blows. Promoting moral values can't be trusted to someone who will take whatever position is popular. Just look at Romney's supposed championing of conservative economics before switching last week to propose a liberal bailout in Michigan (that, by the way, wouldn't work). Simply put, someone who claims to have held "heartfelt" positions on both sides of the abortion debate, economic growth and every other major issue is not someone we want to trust with the issues that matter most to us. Who would?

Giuliani supports positions that are contrary to morally conservative values and has vastly less experience and less stature to affect any policies than does John McCain. McCain has a history of standing by his positions even if they become unpopular. Rudy's career as US Attorney for the Southern Dist. of New York was extremely self serving and a black mark on his career that questions whether he would take many positions if they didn't seem to his advantage to do so. McCain's record of consistency is far more reassuring and his personal character makes him more worthy of support.

And McCain is a conservative. He's the only candidate left in the race with an 82.3% lifetime conservative rating. Compare that to Fred Thompson (who was called the "clear conservative candidate")'s lifetime rating of 86%. On social issues McCain is actually more conservative than Thompson, far more so than Giuliani and more consistent and trustworthy than Romney.

He's also the only candidate who polls ahead of both Clinton and Obama in poll after poll after poll, making him the best option for keeping the White House in Republican hands. For all of these reasons and more I'd encourage you to support John McCain for the nomination and to urge your friends, family and acquaintances to do likewise.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: belongsinchat; gop; hewontfoolmeagain; mccain; missinglink; nononononono; noway; perverts; primaries; romney; zot
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To: ml/nj

Throw in Mark Levin, for good measure.


61 posted on 01/28/2008 5:18:19 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: zerosix
In fact, if memory serves me right, didn’t Johnny Kerry once ask McCain to be his VP?

Now that says it all!

62 posted on 01/28/2008 5:18:51 AM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Frankly your argument is totally unfounded.

John McCain has no record fo supporting converstaive judges. Quite the contrary, he has a record of tossing conservative judges under the bus.

John McCain also has made no promise to put constructionists on the Court.

He has a history and record for trying to be a moderate. John McCain will put more Kennedy’s and OConnors on the court..not more Roberts and Alito’s.

And John McCain’s judicial appointments are the only thing that will ultimately matter to social conservative issues.


63 posted on 01/28/2008 5:19:22 AM PST by Prysson
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To: TexasCajun
Not just no! But HELL NO!!

My sentiments exactly!

64 posted on 01/28/2008 5:19:35 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Man50D
It is a Socialist pretending to be Conservative.

That's exactly what I thought!

The Republican Party is in a deep funk right now...Even the mere speculation that we could be looking at McPainaintheass as the nominee boggles my mind.

HOW DID WE GET HERE?!

65 posted on 01/28/2008 5:21:51 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Heres a myth that the Myth Debunker web site CANT “Debunk”. The New York Times will Not endorse a true Conservative candidate. Their endorsement of McCain sent a loud and clear message that McCain is still a friend of the Democrats.


66 posted on 01/28/2008 5:22:26 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Yomin Postelnik

??? Shamnesty and the gutting of the 1st amendment seem to contradict that assertion.


67 posted on 01/28/2008 5:22:41 AM PST by NonValueAdded (What Would Hobson Choose?)
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To: Yomin Postelnik
"he's never supported a tax increase and was only opposed to the last two major tax cuts because they contained no curbs on spending."

This has been exposed as a lie and McCain’s spinning it to cast a better light on his record now that he wants conservatives to vote for him. He never said any of this at the time of the tax cut bill. Here’s what he was saying as his reasons for not supporting the tax cuts then (link):

First, it is notable that Senator McCain stood so astride the Republican anti-tax position that he was one of only two Republican senators to oppose the 2001 tax cuts[5] and one of only three GOP senators to oppose the 2003 reductions.[6]

Second, Senator McCain's stated reason for opposing the Bush tax cuts rhetorically allied him with the most radical anti-growth elements of national politics. Senator McCain argued, "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief."[7] Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) sounded a similar theme, saying, "Now, they are proposing more of the same, more tax breaks benefiting only the wealthiest among us,"[8] as did Democratic Representative Maxine Waters (CA-35): "I voted against the Republican tax cut plan, which is an irresponsible tax cut that will further undermine the nation's struggling economy at the expense of middle-class American families."[9]

Come on conservatives, "If you don't know me by now, you'll never, never know me ..." is the McCainiac theme song.

68 posted on 01/28/2008 5:23:04 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Guenevere

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Romney, McCain, Paul, Huckabee, Gulianni

The Siamese Quintuplet RINOs


69 posted on 01/28/2008 5:23:38 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Yomin Postelnik

He is better for social conservatives because they will be able to bitch at Hillary for the next four years.


70 posted on 01/28/2008 5:25:06 AM PST by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: sirchtruth

it is MSM code for caucasian n-words.


71 posted on 01/28/2008 5:25:29 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“The majority of Freepers who are not excited about any of the remaining candidates don’t appreciate being spun at. McCain is not a conservative; that is, he positions are not informed by an underlying philosophy that is consistent with conservatism. Sometimes he holds conservative positions out of personal preference or political expediency. That is not the same as being a conservative. Of course, the same could said of any of the remaining major players.

I’m not one who “won’t” vote for McCain, but if I have to eat tripe, don’t put A1 on it and tell me it’s a rib-eye steak. It just makes people like me more suspicious.”

Best comment so far!

If Obama or Clinton is the alternative, any Republican is better. Just hold your nose, vote, but keep your eyes open, knowing what you will be getting.

Unlike Caroline Kennedy, we are not looking for a great leader who “has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves.” Conservatives should not have that ditzy attitude characteristic of Ms. Kennedy and her ilk. All we need is someone who can get a job done by protecting the West and keeping us from going down the socialist drain.


72 posted on 01/28/2008 5:25:38 AM PST by docbnj
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To: TexasCajun

I second that sentiment, NO to RINO John McLame.


73 posted on 01/28/2008 5:26:44 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Another vanity...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


74 posted on 01/28/2008 5:27:04 AM PST by Scarchin (Romney/Thompson 2008)
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To: sirchtruth

A liberal with a day job


75 posted on 01/28/2008 5:30:31 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Photo taken right before Hunter and Thompson left the political landscape.


76 posted on 01/28/2008 5:30:43 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: paratrooper82
Right you are to remind me of that! Thanks.

Yes, McCain's far, far more interested in being liked/loved in liberal, dimocRAT, media circles than in conservative ones.

In fact, when we demanded NO AMNESTY and build those fences, he was quoted as stating something to the effect of, "F**k them. Then give them their G#%dam@@@ fence, then."

What a gentleman attempting to gain our votes, while loathing us at the same time for being conservative and insisting that we have a conservative at the top of our ticket!

77 posted on 01/28/2008 5:31:05 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Let me see, who am I going to believe on this issue, Yomin Postelnik or Rush Limbaugh? I juat can’t make up my mind.

Oh, I remember now, I made up my mind about 20 years ago, that John McCain was not a Republican, much less a conservative one.


78 posted on 01/28/2008 5:33:13 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Aside from McCain’s miserable 2006 ACU rating of 65, which is the last one out, so far as I know, there is more evidence of his leanings that should cause concern among true conservatives, in my opinion. More Republican members of Congress have endorsed Romney for president than have endorsed McCain. The average ACU rating for those who have endorsed Romney is about 85, while the average for those who have endorsed McCain is about 70.


79 posted on 01/28/2008 5:33:48 AM PST by gruna
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To: Yomin Postelnik

NEVER!


80 posted on 01/28/2008 5:36:47 AM PST by BallandPowder
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