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Mystery Man in Holloway Case Comes Forward
ABCNews.com ^ | 2/5/2008 | ELIZABETH VARGAS & CHRIS FRANCESCANI

Posted on 02/05/2008 5:14:44 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

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To: CholeraJoe
Dominique Samuels was murdered in Boston, I know far from exotic but did her murder get day and night coverage on every network?

Dominique Samuels is easy to check on. There are several stories about her on the net.

She didn't disappear without a trace. She wasn't listed as a missing person. The first sign anything was amiss with her was when her body was found; the circumstances were not photogenic (an understatement).

About 15 years ago, a female student "of color" from a city near my home disappeared while she was at college (the college in question is also nearby). She was missing for several months. Her story, name, and picture were on the news every night during that time. The college she attended offered a substantial reward for information about her fate.

Her remains were eventually found in a basement in a seedy part of the city. The details were extremely graphic and revolting; think Jeffrey Dahmer.

The perpetrator was caught soon after her body was found. He was also "of color," and had a long history of -- shall we say -- problems.

The story quickly disappeared from the local news. Do you think it disappeared because of racism? Or do you think it would have been racism for local media to keep the story alive? To do so would have meant putting nice big pictures of her killer on local TV every night.

Do the majority of killers of women of color themselves share any particular racial characteristics? Are most of them rich white playboys from wealthy European countries? Or do they (the killers) come from other ethnic communities? Communities whose local leaders are not anxious for wall-to-wall mass media coverage of their sorrows.

61 posted on 02/05/2008 7:41:55 AM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: CholeraJoe

How much airtime has been wasted towards the disappearances of pretty white girls
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This is a racist statement if I ever saw one. Obviously this person must not read or see as there have been many of all races represented. I’ll only agree that for some reason Natalie coverage has been ridiculously large. I’m so sick of it that I change channels whenever her disappearance comes up.


62 posted on 02/05/2008 7:42:40 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: ontap

of course “we” control the media, especially this type, rating my friends, ratings


63 posted on 02/05/2008 7:48:28 AM PST by reflecting
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To: reflecting

This is America! Broadcasters are free to broadcast pretty much what they wish and there is a channel selector for the people’s. I see no reason to change either. There is a channel called BET(Black Entertainment Television) Maybe they should start covering all the missing black women?


64 posted on 02/05/2008 8:00:46 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: CholeraJoe

hogwash.

but seeeing as how you care so much, how many missing persons campaigns have you spearheaded?


65 posted on 02/05/2008 8:03:26 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Maybe this daury kid is pixxed off enough to name names on his “best friend” Joran who dragged him into this.

Someone else disposed of the body. Some kids on the island know who.


66 posted on 02/05/2008 8:05:29 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Stepha Henry - Miami

Nancy Grace and Greta aired this case many times.

If you go to America’s Most Wanted and search missing person’s by region on the map, you will find approximately seven African American Women missing in the United States.


67 posted on 02/05/2008 8:13:42 AM PST by 007girl
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To: CholeraJoe

“airtime has been wasted towards the disappearances of pretty white girls “

My wife calls FoxNews “The Missing White Chick Channel”. Night after night Gretta has nothing on but missing white chicks, followed by other hosts having nothing but that as well.


68 posted on 02/05/2008 8:16:54 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CholeraJoe
no one seems to care when a woman or child of color goes missing?

Actually, pretty colored girls get pretty good Press coverage, too. Ugly girls of any color just don't get the Press one might hope for.

69 posted on 02/05/2008 8:26:09 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: CholeraJoe

Jesse is that you?


70 posted on 02/05/2008 8:30:55 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: twigs

Per Joran: His mysterious friend helped him carry her to the boat which was moored nearby. The friend took the boat out to sea with Natalee and Joran went home to establish an alibi.


71 posted on 02/05/2008 8:33:15 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: CholeraJoe

There are two women who make a living off this stuff!

Nancy and Greta.

Would you like them to be off the air?

s/


72 posted on 02/05/2008 9:01:45 AM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: CholeraJoe
"Almost none to dozens of Black women and children murdered or missing in the US. The media is racist, not me"

And the media wouldn't be able to hide the fact that crimes perpetrated on black women and children are almost always committed by black males. That doesn't fit the Liberal paradigm, so those crimes seldom get much airtime.

73 posted on 02/05/2008 9:32:34 AM PST by Ignatz (Silence is golden...duct tape is silver.)
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To: ontap
There is a channel called BET(Black Entertainment Television) Maybe they should start covering all the missing black women?

Oh I see, black folk should concern themselves with black folk and whites with whites. Is this the "separate but equal doctrine" brought to broadcasting? Wow what a helpful tool for those who wish to assuage their conscience with the "well they got thier own" defense.

You might continue advocating this position. After all it was pretty much law of the land until the 1960's and who knows it might make a come back. They got their own colleges why are they trying to go to ours, they got their own churches why are they showing up here, they got their own soda shops ... etc...

To pervert a phrase: You might be a racist if "they got their own" comes to mind when some raises an issue with equal treatment of blacks in the broader culture.

No one said anything about changing free speech, the comment was simply about the ratings driven media's racial bias. But hey see above paragraph. Yes, I am naming you a racist.

74 posted on 02/05/2008 9:36:12 AM PST by reflecting
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To: Red in Blue PA

Why are we surprised that incidents like this happen? What can you expect when you have a culture that:

1. Allows teens to travel, sometimes completely unsupervised, to ‘romantic’ third world countries which have little or no interest in the welfare of their teen tourists.

2. Parents who submit to pressure from their teens to travel tours like this.

3. The prevalence of teen—and young people in their 20s— drinking culture that glorifies drinking “shots” and other ways of drinking until reaching levels of drunkenness that lower inhibitions and may reach lethal levels.

Inevitably you are going to have some deaths, some ‘girls gone wild’ and some serious shame at their antics when they sober up.

You can feel for their parents, but with a caveat that their lack parenting contribute to all these outcomes.


75 posted on 02/05/2008 9:52:23 AM PST by wildbill
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To: CholeraJoe
"How much airtime has been wasted towards the disappearances of pretty white girls like Holloway and the Peterson twins, Lacy and Stacy, while no one seems to care when a woman or child of color goes missing? For shame, USA!"

Whats it to you? No one is forcing you to read every story about Holloway, or are you so racist you can't stand it when white girls get attention in the press? If every missing person got the same amount of press that Holloway did, the papers would be full of nothing else. Is that what you demand. All missing persons and nothing else?
76 posted on 02/05/2008 10:29:02 AM PST by monday
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To: CholeraJoe

“Name just one Black woman’s disappearance that has gotten one-tenth the publicity of Natalie Holloway’s.”

Counterpoint: Name one black women who has disappeared in an exotic locale, on a class trip. It’s not about color. It’s about the prurient appeal. I am as disgusted about salacious coverage as anyone, but it is not about color.


77 posted on 02/05/2008 10:39:32 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: reflecting

You need to get a life! I was merely answering the complaint as to why only missing white women were in the news. But since you bring it up there is no WET( White Entertainment Television).


78 posted on 02/05/2008 11:39:35 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: austinaero

I agree, good point. A great many factors go into elevating a straightforward disappearance into a national media circus, far more facets than the reductionistic view of race alone.


79 posted on 02/05/2008 11:50:15 AM PST by giobruno
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To: CholeraJoe

You may not like this, but here it goes. An ASIAN cab driver recently told me that ALL men like white women.


80 posted on 02/05/2008 12:08:53 PM PST by societygirl
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