There's Nothing Conservative Or Principled About Helping A Democrat Beat John McCain In November

TownHall.com ^ | February 8, 2008 | John Hawkins

[84rules]

There is NOTHING conservative about working with the Democratic nominee against most of your fellow conservatives in order to grow government, socialize medicine, lose the war in Iraq, tilt the Supreme Court to the Left, and make Roe v. Wade the permanent law of the land. If you are conservative and vote for the Democratic nominee or even just refuse to vote for McCain, who is by any and every objective standard, considerably more conservative than either of them, let me tell you what you are NOT doing,

* You are NOT doing the logical thing. When faced with a choice between a moderate who holds some conservative positions and some non-conservative positions and a liberal who holds no conservative positions, the logical decision is to take the moderate. After all, half a loaf is better than none.

* You are NOT helping conservatism or your fellow conservatives. To the contrary, you are helping liberals defeat conservative ideas. Isn't that what conservatives are saying that they're furious at McCain over? Well, who's less of a conservative: John McCain, who, if he were in the White House, would help conservatives win some battles and would help liberals win others or the conservatives who want to help a Democrat get into the office who will go against conservative ideas every time?

* You are NOT looking out for the best interests of the country. If you believe winning in Iraq is better than losing, if you believe balancing the budget is better than higher deficit spending, if you believe that having a Supreme Court that is tilted to the right is better than having a Supreme Court tilted to the left, and if you believe that Roe v. Wade is leading to the immoral murder of millions of children -- and the overwhelming majority of people reading this column certainly believe all those things -- then you are certainly not putting the good of the country first if you oppose John McCain in November.

[AnnGora]

I think you are right, 84rules.

I don’t like McCain, but I will vote for him because I care about our troops in Iraq and at least McCain supports their mission. It’s our soldiers I am thinking about.

If they can sacrifice their lives and their blood, then we conservatives can sacrifice a little pride.

[CSI007]

Boy you all are really trying to pour it on thick now. McCain has got serious problems with the conservative base. I think we have about had it and the people running the GOP can stick it where the sun don’t shine. Reap what you sow and enjoy the massive loses come November.

[tabsternager]

Great quote!

[Zakeet]

According to this lady:

If Hillary is elected president, we'll have a four-year disaster, with Republicans ferociously opposing her, followed by Republicans zooming back into power, as we did in 1980 and 1994, and 2000. (I also predict more Oval Office incidents with female interns.)

If McCain is elected president, we'll have a four-year disaster, with the Republicans in Congress co-opted by "our" president, followed by 30 years of Democratic rule.

You can read more about what Ann thinks of McCain and the reasons she gives in support of her conclusion HERE.

[lormand]

"Time for all Freepers to rally around McCain and go on to victory in November."

I don't know if I would phrase it like that.

How about, "all Freepers hold your nose and vote against whatever RAT is running against the RINO"?

There is not much to vote FOR in this election.

[Free Vulcan]

“There’s Nothing Conservative Or Principled About Helping A Democrat Beat John McCain In November”

There’s nothing conservative or principled about John McCain running to Democrats to pass liberal legislation the last 10 years.

He didn’t show unity with the party in his voting record.

Why should I show unity with the party in voting for him?

[SwankyC]

There is NOTHING conservative about working with the Democratic nominee against most of your fellow conservatives

There's nothing conservative about using these stupid liberal smear tactics either. I still ain't voting for Mr Socialist lite.

[pogo101]

I will vote for McCain, but I don’t trust him. I’m doing it because for the judiciary and foreign/military policy, not because I do NOT think he won’t backstab us again.

In some political contexts, it DOES make sense to “let the other side win” and come back stronger a few years later.

Here, however, it does NOT make sense because damage in only 4 years, by a HillObama with a Dem Congress, to the courts (judges) and foreign/military policy of this country may be irreparable, or take 40+ years (SCOTUS justices’ tenure) to correct.

[Hazcat]

Just say no to McAmnesty, enemy of the first and second amendments and friend to illegal aliens (and Democrats).

[Reagan79]

“Time for all Freepers to rally around McCain and go on to victory in November.”

But we want to continue to whine and be online drama queens.

[rightinthemiddle]

Okay. I’ll fall in line.

Now, I’m ready to watch McCain run to the Left, court Hispanic voters, and choose a RINO as a running mate.

I’m ready to see Juan Hernandez out there shilling for John McCain.

I’m ready to hear John talk about “climate change,” “reaching out,” and “working with the opposition.”

Yup. I am the sheeple the RNC RHINOs count on to fall in line.

[Major Matt Mason]

After all, half a loaf is better than none.

This, of course, is never true for conservatives. Try about 20%-30%, John, and you might be closer to the truth. I would be thrilled with half a loaf.

[Afronaut]

You silly Republicans are the cause of the destruction of this once great Country.

Go ahead and get in line to vote for more Republican Garbage. Your reasoning has caused enough damage, now please let something else happen.

Following the GOP is suicide. The only reason we are in this situation is because of stupid GOP lemmings like yourselves.

Burn it down and build it back up or just walk away.

[Westbrook]

Don’t wait too long.

Look what waiting cost Fred and Romney.

If McCain doesn’t have a mobilized base, the Donkeys will crush him.

[pogo101]

It is courageous. But the Bull-Moose/ GOP split gave us two term Democrat Woodrow Wilson ...

[farmer18th]

There is NOTHING conservative about working with the Democratic nominee

That would be John McCain, right? I agree.

[handy]

sorry but I’m not voting for the back stabber. I’ll just sit this one out.

[MNJohnnie]

It would be best if McCainbots simply quit screaming about how we HAVE to support McCain. NO we do not.

I strongly suggest you McCain supporters might want to quit singing the Cult of Personality song in praise of McCain. People here know his real record. Chanting slogans about how great McCain is isn’t going to sell with Freepers. We know better. We know his political record.

Right now McCain supporters best tactic is to simply post what the Democrat candidates are saying on any issue that pisses Conservatives off. Your only hope is that the Democrats manage to scare Conservatives more then McCain pisses them off.

I have no doubt most Conservatives will be scared into supporting McCain in Nov by the Democrats. Simply saying “Well they are worse” isn’t going to work.

What I suggest is McCain supporters simply post what the Democrats Candidates are saying on what ever issues the person angry at McCain is posting about. If they are mad about taxes, post what Obama and Hillary plans are on taxes. Mad on immigration post their immigration plan.

The Democrats themselves are your best chance of changing peoples minds about McCain. Telling us what a great guy he is isn’t going to sell to Feepers. We know his real record on things like Iraq. His real record differs quite a bit from the air brushed one presented by his campaign

I personally think it is a waste of time. I think McCain’s record has so poisoned the well that McCain supporters are wasting their time. However, if McCainiacs are going to insist on spaming the board with McCain campaign ads, at least they should try to be an effective campaigners.

[Izzy Dunne]

Suppose those folks at Pepsi put skunk urine in their drink.
We Coke drinkers don't like it.

Let the Pepsi drinkers have it.

We fight for market share.

Suppose Coke starts to put skunk urine in their drink.

We are Coke drinkers.

Do we still say that Coke beats Pepsi?

Is the market share race all that's important?

If we buy the Coke, the Coke people think we like it - they'll make more.

If we don't, will they get the message and bring back Coke Classic?

I don't know, but it tastes awful either way.

[rightinthemiddle]

McCain is the nominee. It is HIS job to fire up the base.

I’m not going to mend a fence someone else broke.