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An officer escorting Clinton's motorcade in Texas has died after crashing his motorcycle
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Posted on 02/22/2008 8:11:58 AM PST by PurpleMan

Edited on 02/22/2008 10:41:12 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Update:

Star-Telegram

Posted on Fri, Feb. 22, 2008

Dallas motorcycle officer killed in Clinton motorcade wreck

BY NATHANIEL JONES

NBC5

A veteran Dallas police officer was killed this morning when his motorcycle crashed while he was escorting presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to a campaign rally in south Dallas.

Clinton later cut short her appearance in Fort Worth so that she could return to Dallas to be with the officer's family.

She told a crowd of several hundred people that had gathered outside the Tarrant County courthouse in Fort Worth for her appearance that the rally would be inappropriate and canceled the event.

The motorcycle officer, Victor Lozada, 49, was killed at about 9 a.m. on the Houston Street Viaduct as he was part of Clinton's motorcade.

Clinton learned of the accident after her appearance in Dallas.

Excerpted article continues: Star Telgram


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: hillary; leo; motorcade; tx2008
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To: cake_crumb
According to the local Dallas news Hillary was not told about accident until after the Oak Cliff rally. She then went to Ft. Worth, met briefly with the people there, told them what happened and canceled the rally. She then went back to Methodist hospital in Dallas where the officer had been taken to be with the family. I think this was absolutely the right thing to do and the best way to handle the situation. The news has said nothing about his motorcycle being hit by her car or anyone else’s, only that he lost control of his bike. And I don't believe having a motorcade is selfish or arrogant. It is the way things are done.
I don’t like much about Hillary and can probably count on one finger the nice things I have said about her. But I think when we jump to blame her for things like this it can take away our credibility for the many things she is actually responsible for.
141 posted on 02/23/2008 5:07:48 AM PST by helen crump
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To: RobbyS

An omen....


142 posted on 02/23/2008 5:10:43 AM PST by flaglady47 (Algore: send global warming to Chicago area; will pay any carbon tax - desperate)
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To: cake_crumb

I haven’t heard from the eyewitnesses to this, but it looks to me like he might have been riding on the sidewalk and not noticed that the wall jutted in as the sidewalk narrowed. Just slamming into the unyielding concrete abutment like that doesn’t mean you have to be speeding to get badly damaged—as you said, those bikes are heavy.


143 posted on 02/23/2008 5:59:48 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: incindiary

“I’ve actually seen a number of pro-Clinton posts on this site, which blows my mind.”

Mine is certainly not a pro-Clinton post, but the Clinton death list is so much BS. The number of people on FR who believe it is completely embarrassing. You all should start your own website selling tinfoil hats at a discount.

BTW, do you have a good explanation as to how the Clintons could cover up all these murders for so many years? It’s not good enough to say “they’re the Clintons” or “they’re from Arkansas.” Attempt to think rationally.


144 posted on 02/23/2008 6:44:11 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: ReignOfError

I was referring to the one that lists four military people assigned to a helicopter that Clinton rode once before they died. Ah, but silly me, Clinton probably got a BJ on that ride and so had to have them killed. /s

Also in that group are four ATF guys who were killed at Waco. But then, I’m sure Clinton arranged to have either some other ATF guys or the Branch Davidians shoot them. /s

If the Clintons had all these folks killed, why not Monica and Bill’s other women? I mean, it certainly wouldn’t be beyond the powerful Clinton mafia.

Once again, I have no use whatsoever for the Clintons, but it would be nice to stick to the real threat they represent,.


145 posted on 02/23/2008 6:50:52 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: Gondring

They showed a diagram in the Dallas Morning News today. Apparently he was going too fast, as there is a sharp turn where one ought to go about 20.MPH. He took the curve too fast, hit the wall, slid along it until he hit a piece of concrete extending from the wall. Thius brought his bike to an abrupt stop and threw him maybe a hundred feet. Hillary must have passed him lying on the ground. She didn’t learn until later he was dead. But that wouls shake up anyone. I give her a break. Pray for the officer and his family. Apparently a really nice guy. The Chief’s voice was wavering as he spoke. Popular guy, good officer.


146 posted on 02/23/2008 9:35:26 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: PurpleMan

“Total suspicious deaths: 46”

I’ve seen lists that went up above a hundred.


147 posted on 02/23/2008 9:42:34 AM PST by dsc
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To: gracesdad

“As I’ve pointed out before but won’t go into detail this time, I could make a similar list of people I’ve known or been close to who died under “mysterious” circumstances or in plane or car “crashes” (wink, wink) or by suicide (wink, wink again).”

Really?

Really?

Because most people can’t.

If you know two people who have died under mysterious circumstances in separate incidents, odds are very high that there’s something wrong somewhere.


148 posted on 02/23/2008 9:46:50 AM PST by dsc
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To: txroadkill

“Just to put those numbers in perspective”

Pooh. If you know 12 people that have been murdered, something is rotten in Denmark.


149 posted on 02/23/2008 9:54:04 AM PST by dsc
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To: RobbyS

Given that description, he was lucky not to go over the wall and fall down to the level below, but I guess that was luck was irrelevant with him dying anyway.


150 posted on 02/23/2008 9:54:11 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Pinkbell

“I would imagine Hillary would feel bad about this.”

Really? I don’t think she has the capability to feel empathy.


151 posted on 02/23/2008 9:59:07 AM PST by dsc
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To: OPS4
Add another to the list...


152 posted on 02/23/2008 10:07:40 AM PST by bigjoesaddle (Toby Keith doesn't want to be fed, Toby Keith wants to HUNT!)
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To: dsc

I think she say the man down on the ground as she passed in her car. Don’t need much empathy to be shocked by that. She’s a bitch but she is human.


153 posted on 02/23/2008 10:08:53 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

“She’s a bitch but she is human”

1. I still think you overestimate her.
2. She may be human, but her boss isn’t.


154 posted on 02/23/2008 10:13:54 AM PST by dsc
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To: dsc
I’ve seen lists that went up above a hundred.

As did the list of witches in Salem.

I'm constntly annoyed by ow credulous FReepers are when an unsupported story confirms what they want to believe.

155 posted on 02/23/2008 10:15:19 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: MizSterious

“The damage was done. I thought an apology and explanation might be better, because so many had already commented on it.”

You have to understand: you’re the only person in the history of the world ever to goof, so we perfect types just can’t find it in our perfect hearts to forgive you.


156 posted on 02/23/2008 10:16:28 AM PST by dsc
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To: ReignOfError

“I’m constntly annoyed by ow credulous FReepers are when an unsupported story confirms what they want to believe.”

Are you sure that you’ve take a good look at those cases?

Sure, some of them are probably unconnected, but many of them are obviously dirty.

You have to be a fool to doubt that many people have been killed either at the order of the Clintons or on their behalf.

I’m not going to type in page after page of information, but some of these cases cry out to the heavens for justice.


157 posted on 02/23/2008 10:21:37 AM PST by dsc
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To: ReignOfError

“As did the list of witches in Salem.”

You should also reflect that some of those women were on the list of witches because they had been trying to practice witchcraft and claimed to be witches.


158 posted on 02/23/2008 10:22:59 AM PST by dsc
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To: dsc
Pooh. If you know 12 people that have been murdered, something is rotten in Denmark.

I'm only 37, and I don't meet the thousands of people politicians do, but still;

My mother, grandfather and great-uncle all died of a sudden and unexpected "aneurysm." No autopsies were performed.

My other grandfather, who died long before I was born, died alone in a hotel room. It was ruled a choking death. There were no witnesses.

Two people who were in elementary school at the same time as I died of gunshot wounds. The official story was that the kids found a gun in the house and were playing with it when it went off. The incidents were quickly ruled accidents and the cases closed.

A friend and mentor of mine of work died of "cancer" at the age of 62. No autopsy was performed.

Another coworker died in a crash of his private plane during calm, clear weather. Ruled pilot error.

You can make any death sound suspicious, even sinister, if you try. That's the trick behind the "clinton death list." I haven't put in the effort to look for people who knew people I knew. It's a piece of cake to insinuate a link between unlinked events, but it doesn't hold up to serious scrutiny.

But if you pile enough coincidences on top of each other, and couch them in spooky words, most folks won't investigate; they figure, "where there's smoke, there's fire." Not true. Could be a guy with a smoke machine.

Do you believe that Bush 41 was complicit with Gov. Clinton in cocaine smuggling through Mena, Arkansas? If not, strike half the list right there. You have folks who "knew to much" about Mena (a claim made with no evidence to support it), people who might have talked to those people, and people who might have talked to people who talked to those people.

I'll be more blunt than I've been this far: The "Clinton Death List" is crap. Whatever the number of names on the list, the number that are actually even vaguely suspicious is two or three. "Arkancide" is an urban legend, and the fact that so many FReepers accept it uncritically does not enhance their credibility.

Hey, here's a radical thought: Why don't we focus on concrete differences in policy and character that can actually be established, rather than chasing wild conspiracy chimaerae?

159 posted on 02/23/2008 10:48:08 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: dsc; Alamo-Girl

Many people on FR now aren’t aware of the huge stack of documentation on the Clinton criminal enterprise. They didn’t come up with the term “Arkancide” just for fun. At one time I had the link for Alamo-Girl’s excellent collection, but I lost it during one of my computer’s tantrums. People can—and will—scoff, but personally, if I were Obama, I’d double check every car or plane he enters. Crossing the Clintons doesn’t usually end well.


160 posted on 02/23/2008 10:54:03 AM PST by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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