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Openly carrying gun not a crime
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | March 30, 2008 | Bill Bush

Posted on 03/30/2008 12:35:05 PM PDT by buccaneer81

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To: buccaneer81

The result of a PC/Liberal society ......


81 posted on 03/30/2008 3:17:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: kempo
My point? It is very easy to set in the comfort of your house typing on your computer Monday morning quarter backing someone else.

I'm glad you take the rights of the citizens of Ohio so lightly while at the same time you sanctify public officials who are ignorant of the laws they are supposed to uphold. Are you Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

82 posted on 03/30/2008 3:18:54 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: BIV

I’d be more worried that the kid doesn’t have what it takes to prevent a thug from taking it from him and killing him with it.


83 posted on 03/30/2008 3:19:21 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: MaxMax

NOw imagine how things could’ve turned out for you if his supervisor WASN’T a good friend of your’s.


84 posted on 03/30/2008 3:22:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: KJC1

Two hundred years ago, I would have challenged you to a duel. But since we live in such unenlightened, PC times, I’ll just have to write you off as a complete idiot.


85 posted on 03/30/2008 3:23:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

I don’t blame you for slinking away since you can’t keep kabuki dancing around your OP forever!

See ya!


86 posted on 03/30/2008 3:31:15 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Though I like the extra advantage that comes from having a concealed weapon as well. Why advertise?”


You can have most of the advantages of both by doing both at once.


87 posted on 03/30/2008 3:38:30 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: KJC1

KJCI posted:

“Read the OP’s comments in the first post.”


I read them. They do not appear to be bashing to me.

It appears that you are taking on the role of the critic.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”


88 posted on 03/30/2008 3:54:33 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: KJC1

He is right. You are wrong.

It is the police officer’s job to know the law. It is his duty NOT to violate others rights.

Do a search of this site on New Hampshire and Open Carry. You will find that there are LOTS of cops who don’t have the slightest idea that open carry is legal. In this case, more than one officer detained a citizen without cause. When they were criticized for having done so, you copped (pun intended) an attitude.

I suggest that your “us against them” attitude does not speak favorably of police officers in general. My own experience has been that there are many great cops and far too many megalomaniacs who should not have badges.


89 posted on 03/30/2008 3:56:34 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: edcoil
Good afternoon.
“In OC California, we have 3.2 million people with only 1,200 CCW’s.”

In Mendocino County, also in California, we have a population of around 90,000 and we also have around 1200 CCW holders.

We elected a solid pro 2nd Amendment sheriff in 1999-2000, with a DA who felt the same at the same time. Sheriff Craver retired for health reasons, but his replacement also will issue to anyone who meets the legal and proficiency requirements. Next election? Who knows.

Things are different when you get away from the liberal cesspool cities but, it's still California, isn't it.

Michael Frazier

90 posted on 03/30/2008 4:01:11 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: mamelukesabre

Well, I think that is one of the concerns. It is one of several legitimate concerns. I’m not saying the hypothetical teen is necessarily going to turn the local food court into a kill zone. I would be more inclined to draw a drivers license analogy. Some contraptions of great social utility are a bit much for a youngster to handle in some circumstances.
This just seems logical to me. And I believe in the First, Second, Third...Amendments as fervently as any person I know.


91 posted on 03/30/2008 4:01:11 PM PDT by BIV
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To: kempo

The problem is that you are changing the situation.
It was daytime. The pistol was holstered, not in his hands. He was not making any threatening moves.
Certainly not a threat and not warranting felony stop type actions.


92 posted on 03/30/2008 4:08:35 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: kempo
A stranger walking at you in the middle of the night

--->A stranger walks toward you...

Please check your English grammar.

93 posted on 03/30/2008 4:16:45 PM PDT by backslacker (Thou shall worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. --Luke 4:8b)
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To: buccaneer81
Unfortunately, the concept of open carry as legal is a doomed notion because hardly anybody (but me) exercises it.

Additionally, the list of places somebody can openly carry is diminished every day.

When I open-carry in the places where it is legal, the soccer moms put their hands over their mouths and eyes and hustle their children away.

Nothing elicits more hysteria than a handgun holstered in open sight except a lit cigarette (sometimes I do both at the same time).

94 posted on 03/30/2008 4:22:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: backslacker

I don’t know about that. “Toward,” to me, invokes diffidence, a happenstance, a mere direction, not necessarily threatening. “At” is more confrontational.
I don’t see a grammatical issue here; I see a “how is the dude acting” issue.


95 posted on 03/30/2008 4:25:33 PM PDT by BIV (a republican is not properly called republic; a democrat is not properly called democratic)
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To: Copernicus; robertpaulsen
Source? Citation? Link?

What does that have to do with your cowardly ill-mannered attack on robertpaulsen behind his back?

96 posted on 03/30/2008 4:37:45 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: elkfersupper
Nothing elicits more hysteria than a handgun holstered in open sight except a lit cigarette (sometimes I do both at the same time).

LOL! I wore my "FRY MUMIA" t-shirt on the Ohio State campus a few years ago. You should have seen the reaction.

97 posted on 03/30/2008 4:38:39 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Mojave

You must not know paulsen.
He’ll probably be here soon and a preemptive strike is absolutely necessary.


98 posted on 03/30/2008 4:42:17 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: elkfersupper
“Unfortunately, the concept of open carry as legal is a doomed notion because hardly anybody (but me) exercises it.
Additionally, the list of places somebody can openly carry is diminished every day.

When I open-carry in the places where it is legal, the soccer moms put their hands over their mouths and eyes and hustle their children away.

Nothing elicits more hysteria than a handgun holstered in open sight except a lit cigarette (sometimes I do both at the same time).”


I open carry quite a bit, and I don't get that reaction.

But, then, I do not smoke.

I think smokers are treated as the new outcasts.

I am optimistic that open carry is making a comeback. When it does, it will be because of people like me and you, and the fellow in this story.

99 posted on 03/30/2008 4:44:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: buccaneer81

Open carry is not illegal here, although if on somebody’s private property or quasi-private such as a mall you may be asked to leave and come back without. Still, we kind of restrict our open carry to unpopulated areas to avoid freaking those who freak at the sight of a firearm, and there could be some somewhere even if not commonly encountered.


100 posted on 03/30/2008 4:49:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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