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Dem Debate: Obama’s Waterloo
HotAir ^ | April 17, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/17/2008 4:55:08 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

The last Democratic debate has finally concluded, and perhaps the last chances of ending the primaries early. Thanks to a surprisingly tenacious set of questions for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton from ABC moderaters Charles Gibson and George Stephanopolous, Barack Obama got exposed over and over again as an empty suit, while Hillary cleaned his clock. However, the big winner didn’t even take the stage tonight.

The first 45 minutes of the scheduled 90-minute debate (which went 15 minutes over) wound up focusing on the series of gaffes and stumbles from both candidates. Hillary more or less defused the Tuzla Dash by admitting she essentially lied about it, trying at one point to use the “sleep deprivation” defense. Obama, however, never did figure out the First Rule of Holes. Once again, he described religion as a refuge people use when government doesn’t work — a fatal misreading of religious faith in America. He not only came up with bad answers, he looked lost and tentative throughout the entire period.

Hillary didn’t let him off the hook, either, not when it came to Crackerquiddick or on the Wright Stuff. Noting that “you choose your pastor, not your family,” Hillary once again pounded Obama for not doing anything about Wright when he had the chance. She also jumped at the chance to note that former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers was more than just a “neighbor”, as Obama described him. Hillary pointed out that Obama and Ayers worked on a foundation together for years, even after 9/11, even after Ayers said publicly that he didn’t regret his terrorism.

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KEYWORDS: abcnews; debate; demdebates; hillary; obama; pa2008
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To: ovrtaxt

Yeah, they were lying bigtime, blaming Bush’s “tax cut for the rich” for the state of Social Security,

when the revenues increased, and the rich actually paid a BIGGER PERCENTAGE of the tax burden due to the decreased rates.

This is the line I use against libs on this topic -
Since revenues have been shown, every time, to increase whenever the rates are reduced, your argument for higher taxes must not be about revenue. It must be about your need for control, or some sort of childish jealous vindictiveness that you’ve been brainwashed into by the democrats.
Got another explanation? errr stammer uh...


41 posted on 04/17/2008 5:53:46 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: SMARTY
I I I I I . My point was that the Nazis made expert use of theater, imagery, hooplah, and that it's understandable that people could be swept up in it. I wasn't arguing whether or not you personally could have withstood it.

There are sometimes when anyone can get swept up in the emotions of a ritual. The Nazis took full advantage. Yesterday Rush Limbaugh was swept away by the US Army band playing "Battle Hymn of the Republic" for the Pope. When my father was laid to rest at Arlington, and the finely dressed soldier handed the folded American flag to my mother, I was blubbering like a baby. The Nazis tapped into the power of ritual, mysticism, theater, and swept away quite a lot of folks with them. It is understandable, even if you personally are able to remain stoic.

42 posted on 04/17/2008 5:58:09 AM PDT by Huck (Watching the DEMs come down the stretch is like watching the Mets come down the stretch!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Morrissey is right - for almost the first time in a Dem debate, the moderators asked a few tough questions.

But the media whores who're in the tank for Obama (Tom Shales etc.) are screaming this morning! Worst I've heard so far is Don Imus.

Imus, after committing the unforgiveable sin of admitting the truth about Obama a few days ago ("he's a phony") has been pussy-whipped back into line.

Imus apparently got a whuppin' from his lefty Obama-worshipping wife Deirdre and his new black female sidekick, Kerith Foster, for that little slip-up. (Kerith is also on the warpath against Monica Crowley, who as a guest on Imus program dared to criticize Obama - Kerith vows she'll "scratch Monica's eyes out.")

Now in penance Imus has taken a page (literally) from the Rev. Wright's sermon book, labeling anyone who brings up the Wright or Ayers stories as "stuck on stupid." Particularly Sean Hannity.

Imus finds Wright's "stuck on stupid" phrase so clever, he's rechristened the Hannity & Colmes show "Stuck on Stupid & Colmes." (Imus thinks that's so witty, he's made the joke about 50 times in the last two days.)

43 posted on 04/17/2008 5:58:38 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: shhrubbery!

You listen to Imus?


44 posted on 04/17/2008 5:59:57 AM PDT by Huck (Watching the DEMs come down the stretch is like watching the Mets come down the stretch!)
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To: uncbob

Didn’t Bill also pardon a bunch of FARC terrorists?


45 posted on 04/17/2008 6:00:37 AM PDT by TexasMatty (Stay away from my bacon, food nazis!!)
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To: TexasMatty
Didn’t Bill also pardon a bunch of FARC terrorists?

FALN terrorists. It should help Hill in the Puerto Rico primary.

46 posted on 04/17/2008 6:02:37 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park" Watching the Rat Fight. typical white person)
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To: Huck
Yeah. Nothing else to listen to on morning radio after WABC booted Curtis & Kuby to make room for Imus.

I thought of getting satellite radio so we could hear Bill Bennett instead. Never got around to it though.

47 posted on 04/17/2008 6:05:27 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: NeoCaveman
FALN terrorists. It should help Hill in the Puerto Rico primary.

He did it so that she'd get the Puerto Rican vote in New York during her senate run.

48 posted on 04/17/2008 6:07:25 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: shhrubbery!

That’s the typical leftist method of “debate” -

if you don’t agree with my leftist position on everything, you must be stupid, because only stupid people don’t understand and take my “enlightened” viewpoint.


49 posted on 04/17/2008 6:08:41 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Huck

Sorry I said anything. Somehow, I mistook this for a place to exchange thoughts, and ideas.


50 posted on 04/17/2008 6:11:17 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: NeoCaveman

Thanks. She can’t take the “moral” high ground in regard to William Ayers then. I loathe JMcC, but compared to the Dem twits he is the second coming of Reagan.


51 posted on 04/17/2008 6:12:30 AM PDT by TexasMatty (Stay away from my bacon, food nazis!!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Hillary didn’t let him off the hook, either, not when it came to Crackerquiddick or on the Wright Stuff. Noting that “you choose your pastor, not your family,” Hillary once again pounded Obama for not doing anything about Wright when he had the chance. She also jumped at the chance to note that former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers was more than just a “neighbor”, as Obama described him. Hillary pointed out that Obama and Ayers worked on a foundation together for years, even after 9/11, even after Ayers said publicly that he didn’t regret his terrorism."

" Crackerquiddick Gate " is a Wright-size problem!!

You can't win a general election with a coalition of America hating African- Americans and America hating white liberal elitist billionaires/millionaires, who buy brie, Chardonnay, and Hussein Obama/Samma.

For an inside look at the real Hussein Obama and his elite hate America backers at San Francisco where Hussein Obama made his elitist remarks,

Go here to see the thread with all The Pictures posted and Here to see another thread about this meeting of elite left wing America haters.

There are some very interesting pictures and comments re the actual meeting on those threads.

"Hussein Obama’s big mouth, small brain, condescending, America-hating, grandkid-baby-terminating, born-alive-infant-abandoning, America-hating-wife, kooky-moonbat-America-hating-pastor, racially-divisive, race-baiting, crotch-saluting, America-flag-disrespecting ... chickens ... coming home to roost ...!"


52 posted on 04/17/2008 6:18:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: shhrubbery!

Ever since Imus has been back on the radio after getting canned for his women’s basketball comment, he’s seems to kiss you know what ass.


53 posted on 04/17/2008 6:20:10 AM PDT by hdbc
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To: Grampa Dave

Is the picture of his Texas CHQ photoshoped? If not, WOW, JUST WOW!


54 posted on 04/17/2008 6:24:10 AM PDT by TexasMatty (Stay away from my bacon, food nazis!!)
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To: MrB
He did it so that she'd get the Puerto Rican vote in New York during her senate run.

I know. It was classic Clinton overkill, like she wasn't going to get that vote anyways. My point still stands, it should help her this June in PR.

55 posted on 04/17/2008 6:28:02 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park" Watching the Rat Fight. typical white person)
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To: shhrubbery!

Luckily Im not in the car in the AM these days. Imus is unlistenable. How many times can you listen to the same old hacks...is he still trotting the same bozos out? Doris Kearns Goodwin? Chris Dodd? Joe Biden? That idiot “security” guy? I used to listen to a little bit of it myself back in my commuter days. Ugh.


56 posted on 04/17/2008 6:28:34 AM PDT by Huck (Watching the DEMs come down the stretch is like watching the Mets come down the stretch!)
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To: TexasMatty

The Che picture was on the wall until all hell broke loose after it was exposed on the internet.


57 posted on 04/17/2008 6:34:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: SMARTY
Could have been around the same time 1938 that Time had him on the front cover as man of the year; so perhaps not so scary when you view it through her lens
58 posted on 04/17/2008 6:35:40 AM PDT by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I read the article entirely. and the comments at the original site. One poster called Obama: OBAMBI. ROTFL !


59 posted on 04/17/2008 6:45:25 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: samtheman
McCain is going to go up against the stupidest leftist since Mike Dukakis. McCain is one lucky SOB.

Perhaps this is proof that God still loves America.

60 posted on 04/17/2008 6:46:36 AM PDT by Red Boots
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