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U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame? (Barf Alert)
ABC News ^ | April 22, 2008 | BRIAN ROSS and RICHARD ESPOSITO

Posted on 04/22/2008 1:20:48 PM PDT by 300magnum

U.S. gun stores and gun shows are the source of more than 90 percent of the weapons being used by Mexico's ruthless drug cartels, according to U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials.

"It's a war going on in Mexico, and these types of firearms are the weapons of war for them," said Bill Newell, the special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division of the ATF, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which has primary law enforcement jurisdiction for investigating gun smuggling to Mexico.

"It's virtually impossible to buy a firearm in Mexico as a private citizen, so this country is where they come," said Newell.

But U.S. efforts to stop the smuggling of tens of thousands of guns to Mexico, including high-powered assault weapons, have been hampered by lenient American gun laws and the Bush administration's failure to give priority to anti-gun smuggling efforts, officials tell ABC News for a report Tuesday on ABC News' "World News With Charles Gibson."

President Bush said today at a press conference that Mexican President Felipe Calderon again raised the issue of guns at their meeting in New Orleans.

Mexico's strict gun laws are being subverted by the easy availability of weapons in the U.S., the Mexican attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza, told ABC News. "The Second Amendment," said the attorney general, "is certainly not designed to arm and give fire power to organized crime abroad."

More than 3,400 people have been killed by the drug cartels in the last 15 months, 2,000 of them law enforcement officials, according to the Mexican attorney general.

U.S. and Mexican officials say they have traced most of the thousands of high-powered weapons seized from the drug cartels to gun dealers in Texas, California and Arizona.

Assault weapons made in China and Eastern Europe, resembling the AK-47, have become widely and cheaply available in the U.S. since Congress and the Bush administration refused to extend a ban on such weapons in 2004.

Under federal gun laws, gun dealers are not required to report multiple purchases of such weapons because they are classified as rifles.

"If you were to go into a drugstore and buy 20 of these, there is no requirement by the gun dealer to fill out a multiple sales form," said the ATF's Newell.

The drug cartels' weapons of choice include variants of the AK-47, .50-caliber rifles converted to automatic firing capability and a Belgian-made pistol called the "cop killer" or "mata policia" because of its ability to pierce a bulletproof vest.

"It's in high demand by your violent drug cartels, their assassins in Mexico," said Newell of the ATF. The gun can fire a high-powered round used in a rifle.

An ABC News investigation found the "mata policia" and a wide range of assault weapons prominently displayed at gun stores along the border in Texas, the state providing the most weapons to the drug cartels, according to the ATF.

Under Texas and federal law, there is no waiting period for the purchase of such weapons and no restriction on how many can be bought at a time.

U.S. officials say there is little they can do to go after licensed gun dealers because large purchases, dozens or hundreds at a time, are legal for U.S. citizens and legal immigrants with an IRS green card unless a gun dealer suspects the purchase is being made for someone else.

ATF agents say legitimate gun dealers will often report suspicious activities, but that a small but significant number looks the other way.

"I have personally worked cases where gun dealers have willfully allowed hundreds of guns to leave their gun store knowing that they were going into the wrong hands," said Newell.

While the Bush administration has asked for an additional $100 million to combat drug violence on the border, only $948,000, less than one percent, has been allocated to the ATF under the White House proposal.

"We need a lot more resources," said the ATF's Newell.

"It sure shows a lack of concern on our part for this piece of the problem," said Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., who has introduced legislation to give the ATF an additional $15 million to improve border efforts.


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Well, build the fence.
1 posted on 04/22/2008 1:20:48 PM PDT by 300magnum
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To: 300magnum

Maybe we can become such a nuisance to Mexico, that they will build the fence for us ;)


2 posted on 04/22/2008 1:23:26 PM PDT by catbertz
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"It's virtually impossible to buy a firearm in Mexico as a private citizen, so this country is where they come," said Newell.

You mean there is no illegal gun traficking taking place in Mexico of firearms manufactured from countries outside of the America's? I find that hard to believe.

3 posted on 04/22/2008 1:26:23 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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Yup. Only U.S. guns are being sold to the Mexicans. BS.


4 posted on 04/22/2008 1:26:31 PM PDT by Eurale
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“legitimate gun dealers will often report suspicious activities, but that a small but significant number looks the other way. “


5 posted on 04/22/2008 1:28:16 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: 300magnum

We get cheap labor, they get cheap guns.


6 posted on 04/22/2008 1:28:55 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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"It's virtually impossible to buy a firearm in Mexico as a private citizen,...

What more proof of the old saying "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" do you need?

7 posted on 04/22/2008 1:28:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: 300magnum

Just returning the favor, amigos.


8 posted on 04/22/2008 1:30:11 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Behold, the mind of a liberal:

"Never mind the drugs coming across the border that we like to snort at the dance club before anonymous group sex, it's the guns going south to arm the violent narcotrafficantes who bring us our favorite drugs. That's the real problem. Blame the NRA."

Gee whiz.

9 posted on 04/22/2008 1:31:18 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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Yes folks, that's really in the title: "Second Amendment to Blame". It's all our fault that Mexico is a corrup, crime-ridden, gang-infested third world hellhole.

What a pantload of crass, blatant agitprop from start to finish.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

10 posted on 04/22/2008 1:31:26 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Mexico's strict gun laws are being subverted by the easy availability of weapons in the U.S., the Mexican attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza, told ABC News. "The Second Amendment," said the attorney general, "is certainly not designed to arm and give fire power to organized crime abroad."

Deal with it. You send us illegals. We send back destabilizing weapons for your country. Fair's fair.

11 posted on 04/22/2008 1:33:13 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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....Second Amendment to Blame?....

Yes and no:

Yes, we're not allowed to shoot border crossers ourselves.

No, the border is open at the will of a lame and mostly nonfunctional government.

12 posted on 04/22/2008 1:34:24 PM PDT by GingisK
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MEDIA AIDS GLOBAL TERRORISM First Amendment to blame?


13 posted on 04/22/2008 1:34:32 PM PDT by omega4179 (enviro-fatigued voter.)
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To: 300magnum

Hey, the American guns are only shooting the people that Mexican guns won’t.

If the mexicans want to build a fence to keep the guns out, I say we split the cost with them.

Have they tried making Mexico a ‘Gun Free Zone’?


14 posted on 04/22/2008 1:36:30 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Perhaps Mexico should build a fence and limit the assistance to border crossers. I am assuming that the people who get the pamphlets on how to come North might be able to reverse track. I sure don’t see them whining when U.S. Dollars are sent to Mexico tax free. This is not an BATF Problem.


15 posted on 04/22/2008 1:37:10 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: 300magnum
Sounds like a job for the Three Amigos!


16 posted on 04/22/2008 1:38:12 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: GingisK

That can change


17 posted on 04/22/2008 1:39:30 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: 300magnum
""We need a lot more resources," said the ATF's Newell."

HERE is the real motivation behind this whining---ATF as an agency hasn't gotten any "goodies" from the border control budget.

Also, last I heard, it was none of the ATF's business to enforce (or help enforce) the laws in Mexico.

And lastly, I suspect that the REAL source of the guns is REAL assault rifles coming in along with drug shipments from further south. I'm sure Nicaragua has lots of real full-auto-capable AK-47's to offer.

18 posted on 04/22/2008 1:41:28 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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"mata policia"

What the heck is this? .38 Super maybe?

19 posted on 04/22/2008 1:41:58 PM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: 300magnum

The fact ATF is saying this is not good.

Wonder if Prez. Bush and his NAU buddies have this on their agenda down in N.O.? SPP?


20 posted on 04/22/2008 1:44:54 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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