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Study Shows 25 Percent of L.A.'s Welfare Goes to Illegal Aliens
KHTS AM Radio ^ | May 5, '08

Posted on 05/07/2008 1:58:52 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

Supervisor says county spends more than $1 billion a year on benefits to illegals. According to new data from the Department of Public Services, nearly a quarter of Los Angeles County's welfare and food stamp benefits goes directly to the children of illegal aliens, at a cost of $36 million a month. "The total cost for illegal immigrants to County taxpayers far exceeds $1 billion a year - NOT including the millions of dollars for education," said Antonovich. "With $220 million for public safety, $400 million for healthcare, and $432 million in welfare allocations, illegal immigration continues to have a devastating impact on Los Angeles County taxpayers." In March, illegals collected over $10 million in welfare assistance and $16 million in food stamp allocations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; immigrantlist; immigration; losangelescounty; welfare
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To: AuntB

I’m ready to fight anytime the rest of you want to get it going. Might as well get after it now, otherwise, it will have to be postponed until we help Europe get rid of their Muslim problem......................


41 posted on 05/07/2008 2:33:37 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: 1rudeboy; All

This isn’t about this particular study out of LA ( I would like to see it too!), but interesting.

CBS Falsely Reports Rand Study on the Cost of Illegal Immigration

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2008/04/30/cbs-falsely-reports-rand-study-cost-illegal-immigration

An April 7 CBS Evening News report on the health care monetary burden of illegal aliens on American taxpayers has just now drawn the ire and the fire of the two largest Hispanic grievance groups — the National Council of La Raza (translation: “The Race”) and the Mexican American Legal and Educational Fund (MAL (not Mos) DEF).

Byron Pitts’ piece is fairly mild and pretty much down the middle of the fairway, and CBS News and their (for now) flagship girl Katie Couric deserve kudos for at least addressing the issue.

But the Latino Intolerance Duo (LID — as in flipped their’s) can not let stand unchallenged the reporting of the costs of the invasion. Pitts pointing out that someone somewhere (that would of course be us) must pick up the tab — when the likes of Fabiola (the illegal alien mother featured in the story) does not — is to them an “anti-Latino falsehood”. They do not offer how or why something so obvious as this is either “anti-Latino” or a “falsehood” — we are left to assume that their asserting it empirically makes it so.

On our end, there was bit of a bone to be picked with the Tiffany Network’s numbers.

The tally CBS offers for the aggregate damage done to federal, state and local budgets by the unremitted health care bills of illegal aliens seems far short of what seems to be reasonable. It is in actuality false.

CBS cites a Rand Corporation study that asserts that the cost to the taxpayer for health care for “all undocumented men, women and children” — their words, both spoken and in chyron — is $1.1 billion per year. That jumped out — at least to me — as woefully underselling the drama.

And so it is. The Rand study cited is in fact NOT for “all undocumented men, women and children” as CBS claims, but examines only “nonelderly participants — those between 18 and 64” as so described in the Rand report’s executive summary.

In other words, it does NOT include children as claimed by CBS, nor does it contain those of advanced age, the two age groups that far and away partake of the most health care — and dollars therefore.

CBS inaccurately stretching the findings of the report to include children and the elderly, when it so CLEARLY does not, is decidedly false and minimizes substantially the impression left with the viewer as to the costs attending the illegal alien population in our midst.

Many thanks to La Raza and MALDEF for bringing this old story to our attention anew, else this egregious error might have slipped permanently into media bias and falsehood oblivion.

An aside: Even confined to the actual parameters, the $1.1 billion in costs per annum Rand claims still seems extraordinarily small. One perusing the Center for Immigration Studies’ “Costs” report page will find their inkling supported in study after excellent study.

In but one 2004 report, “The High Cost of Cheap Labor - Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget”, we find Executive Summary Point #1:

Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.

Emphasis ours. Here we have already hurdled by a factor of 10 Rand’s $1.1 billion total — just at the federal level and in only a portion of the illegal alien population here in the United States.

CBS’s uncritically accepting Rand’s paltry number — and falsely applying it to the broader illegal alien population — looks more feeble still.

—Seton Motley is Director of Communications for the Media Research Center.


42 posted on 05/07/2008 2:35:46 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because it's hard to blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: raptor29

I’m in!


43 posted on 05/07/2008 2:36:32 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because it's hard to blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: AuntB

If you find this study before I do, please let me know. I’m tired of using worms. I want to fish with dynamite.


44 posted on 05/07/2008 2:39:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

“I’m tired of using worms. I want to fish with dynamite.”

Dang, remind me never to invite you on a trip down the river! lol


45 posted on 05/07/2008 2:45:45 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because it's hard to blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: T.L.Sink

Anchor babies are the ones getting the welfare. With these anchor babies the illegal alien can get welfare and food stamps in their name. Housing subsidies, section 8 too. So technically the illegal alien isn’t getting welfare

But I’m sure many illegals with phony IDs and phony SS numbers get welfare too. They masquerade as US citizens


46 posted on 05/07/2008 3:02:07 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: stevio

Every single politician should be thrown in prison for refusing to enforce our laws. How much more do they think they can squeeze out of the American tax payer before we snap? I consider this one of the biggest crimes ever committed against the American people.


47 posted on 05/07/2008 3:03:08 PM PDT by peeps36 (Politician = Corrupt Degenerate Loser = Ted, Nancy, Barry, Jack and Many More)
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To: Brad's Gramma
I have all the sympathy in the world for you.

One of the cities in this county of Imperial, Calexico has voted in an all Spanish speaking School Board.

The brother of a school board member was promoted to a $129,000 dollar a year manager of human resources and that was just the beginning of the downfall of the school system.

A recent investigation by the state says he does have the proper qualifications for the job.

The entire school system and city is rift with corruption and nepotism of the kind seen in many cities down in Mexico.

Used to think it was in the water but now think the biased attitude of Hispanics are their own worst enemy.

Calexico is a good example of what those crazy MECHA nuts would do if they actually did get a country called Asstzlan.

48 posted on 05/07/2008 3:17:36 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: T.L.Sink
Why can't the citizens of Lost Angeles sue the city in civil court to get this spending on illegals stopped?
49 posted on 05/07/2008 3:19:51 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: T.L.Sink

When is this country going to wake up and realize that giving citizenship to the children of illegals is a really bad idea?

We could solve many of this country’s problems by no longer giving citizenship to children born to illegals, no longer providing social services to illegals, securing the border and enforcing all immigration laws.


50 posted on 05/07/2008 3:25:17 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: OKIEDOC

The system is so corrupt anymore that it wouldn’t work. Hell, we win votes at the ballot box and some Carter or Clinton-appointed judge just throws it out. Once a system loses its integrity, the people have no recourse but to take matters into their own hands. We are at that point in America, and especially in places like southern California. And the stupid white liberals in this area have no idea how bad they are going to be treated once this low-brow immigrant mass gets a little more of an upper hand.


51 posted on 05/07/2008 3:55:42 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: EyeGuy; All

You’ve posed a very good question about why law-abiding, hard-working “normal” Americans continue to live there. Actually, fewer and fewer are. Indulge me a quote from a NY Times best-seller on the foreign illegal invasion:

“As tax consumers continue to flood in from Mexico, and taxpayers flee, the state is sinking in a sea of red ink. The Golden Land is no more. An exodus comparable to that of the 1930’s Dust Bowl has begun. Fed up with rising crime rates and rising taxes to subsidize illegal aliens, people are leaving. California is going home to Mexico. Who can deny it? With 100,000 whites leaving California each year, and 43 percent of all Californians under 18 Hispanic, California is becoming - indeed, has become - a Third World nation.”

“By 2050 Americans of European descent will be a minority in the nation their ancestors created and built. No nation has ever undergone so radical a demographic transformation and survived.”


52 posted on 05/07/2008 3:59:03 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: pissant
And I swear Arnie looks more and more like Grey each passing day..

I think he's actually worse than Davis!

53 posted on 05/07/2008 4:01:58 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: Brad's Gramma
I’m in OC, watching my property values plummet. Right now, it’s kinda hard to get out...

I'll probably lose my job in kindergarten as they can't pay salaries due to the extra costs.

In addition, the class sizes are going to get bigger this coming school term.

54 posted on 05/07/2008 4:04:41 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: AuntB

Absolutely. I think you’ve touched on an important point. I think that since the vast majoity of American citizens rose up and hammered their legislators into killing the infamous ‘06 Comprehensive “amnesty” Immigration bill in the Senate, too many have let their guard down. This is what the open-borders lobby counted on. They intend now to slip in their agenda piecemeal under the radar. If we don’t keep pressuring our politicians they’ll incrementally destroy our national sovereignty and all efforts to secure our borders.


55 posted on 05/07/2008 4:14:34 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: raptor29

You nailed it.


56 posted on 05/07/2008 4:17:50 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: T.L.Sink
Far and away, the most important way to dramatically cut down on illegal immigration is not to build a fence or kick them back to Mexico, but to get draconian with businesses that hire illegals.

I'm all for building a ten-mile high fence and deporting them to Antarctica, but going after the employers as the linchpin of solving the problem is better because:

1. It's easier politically. You'll get fewer charges of racism. I could give a rat's behind if someone wants to call me racist for something that isn't, but a large number of people (read: politicians) are quite sensitive to the charge. Going after the employers solves that problem.

2. Obviously, without work, many of the illegals will self-deport like they did in the 50's, saving us the trouble.

Like I said, I'm all for hitting illegal immigration on every front, but going after the employers is what we should be concentrating on as the most important facet of solving the problem. While the politicians fart around and lie to us about the fence for who knows how long, we could probably get a decent amount of legislation passed to make employing illegals a death-sentence for a business.

57 posted on 05/07/2008 4:25:34 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo
My previous post should begin:

Far and away, the most important way to dramatically cut down on illegal immigration quickly...

58 posted on 05/07/2008 4:26:41 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Da Coyote

The notion that illegals contribute more to our economy than they cost it has been proved to be nothing more than the spin of the open-borders lobbies. There have been innumerable comprehensive research studies that confirm this. To cite just one, the massive report by Robert Rector of Heritage. His report gives evidence that, if not curtailed, massive illegal immigration could collapse the entire American economic and cultural infrastructure within about twenty years.


59 posted on 05/07/2008 4:29:55 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Sybeck1

Lou Dobbs had a special report showing why the low wages of illegals only minimally lower the costs of fruits and vegetables to consumers. More important, these low wages retard farm owners from making the capital investment necessary to automate the picking of fruits and vegetables. For example, here in FL the large orange groves are all harvesting oranges with automated machinery. The work is not only more efficiently done but costs consumers LESS than it would if done by cheap labor. It does require a large initial investment but it soon more than pays for itself.


60 posted on 05/07/2008 4:41:54 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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