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Voter ID Battle Shifts to Proof of Citizenship
NY Times ^ | May 12, 2008 | IAN URBINA

Posted on 05/12/2008 1:21:58 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: MrB

voter fraud should cause an immediate loss of 501(c)(3) status.


21 posted on 05/12/2008 7:09:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vigilanteman
If ACORN is so concerned that their people can't afford this, all they need to do is call their buddy George Soros to write a check. But for some odd reason, it is easier to go to court and cry wolf.

That's how we know that the leftists' anti-ID agenda is bullcrap. For a pittance (covered by donations), their volunteers could assist the poor and downtrodden in writing to the appropriate bureaucracy to obtain a birth certificate. It's not hard to do, and even the notoriously corrupt and inefficient Peoples' Republic of Maryland managed (in 2003) to get me a new birth cert in about 2 weeks time.

22 posted on 05/12/2008 7:21:49 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
It is hard to call them incompetent when the form they picked up at the Post Office was the wrong one.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I understand your point. I was referring to incompetence on the part of the state.

23 posted on 05/12/2008 7:27:28 AM PDT by gridlock (The natural state of the world is Darfur. The freakish aberration is America - - Ann Coulter)
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To: MrB
I’ve actually had leftists argue that non-citizens/illegals should vote because they have a stake in the outcome of elections.

I have heard that argument as well, but I reject it, of course. If these non-citizen/illegals want to vote, they can become legal citizens first!

24 posted on 05/12/2008 7:30:16 AM PDT by gridlock (The natural state of the world is Darfur. The freakish aberration is America - - Ann Coulter)
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To: gridlock

I thought it was such a ridiculous argument that I dismiss it out of hand as an example of moonbattery.


25 posted on 05/12/2008 8:01:52 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ArrogantBustard; MrB

In a sane world, ACORN would have their tax exempt status withdrawn, all of their voter registrations canceled and be indicted under the RICO statues.


26 posted on 05/12/2008 8:32:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: Vigilanteman
In a sane world,

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Sanity absconded for parts unknowns years ago ...

27 posted on 05/12/2008 8:37:05 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MrB

I’ve known a couple people here illegally claiming that they should have the right to vote because the outcome of the US elections affects the world. One of them claimed that he didn’t want to be a US citizen though as he liked to travel and he wouldn’t feel comfortable traveling on a US passport.


28 posted on 05/12/2008 8:48:54 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (We're all mavericks now.)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

It’s no wonder we don’t get along with the left.

Their thought processes are as f’d up as a pile of clothes hangers.


29 posted on 05/12/2008 9:12:58 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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ping


30 posted on 05/12/2008 11:22:35 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gridlock
The state should efficiently register every citizen who applies to vote.

Flicken is and unabashedly open borders advocate.

31 posted on 05/12/2008 11:30:23 AM PDT by itsahoot (Global Government is coming because, I guess we want it.)
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To: Puppage
Legal residents aren't citizens

That's a damn good point.

A really big issue here in California. In addition to the massive illegal alien presence in Los Angeles and the Central Valley, we have significant numbers of LPR's here, and H1-B's.

Predictably, they are agitating for the vote. And of course the Leftists want them to get it, because we all know what they will do with it: vote to confiscate money and property from Americans to give to themselves.

San Francisco (of course) is already running the "well lets just let them vote for the school board" bit. This is just incrementalism designed to get the nose under the tent - next it'll be local officials, then county, then....voting for the entire world, whoever happens to have just slithered into the country.

A citizenship test is now plausible because the Arizona law was upheld. Now we'll see if the Republicans in California have the guts to do anything like that.

32 posted on 05/12/2008 12:34:25 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: ComputerGuy
Legal residents aren't citizens.

Excellent point.

33 posted on 05/12/2008 12:37:40 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


34 posted on 05/12/2008 4:43:42 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Regulator

I think things are pretty much past whatever the Republicans have the guts for. Just a matter of being able to count the votes as they exist on the ground today ... not a few years down the road, but right here and now.

Back in 1994, when prop. 187 passed, things were different. We could say then “hey, if we don’t do something right now, we’re going to have a big problem in five or ten years.” Well, the ‘Rat governor, and a Clinton-appointed Judge managed to gut 187, and guess what? All of the chicken littles of 1994 turned out to be right — we have a big problem, and no longer have the electoral ability to change course.

Now, the current debate in Sacramento is about the exact issue you mention: how to raise taxes on the remaining productive citizens, in order to shower benefits on the lefty voters. Heck of a mess, but danged if I can figure a way out of it at this point.


35 posted on 05/12/2008 5:07:02 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: neverdem

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 05/13/2008 12:26:56 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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37 posted on 05/13/2008 1:32:54 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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thanks neverdem.

Democrats want to shut down ID effort:
GOP moves to add photo ID requirement to vote(Missouri)
The Springfield News-Leader | May 11, 2008 | David Lieb
Posted on 05/11/2008 9:23:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2014650/posts


38 posted on 05/13/2008 9:04:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.


39 posted on 05/13/2008 12:53:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (The "thug-way": Hillary won't drop out until Obama accepts her as VP - then the real horror starts.)
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