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A Teleconference With John McCain
Right Wing News ^ | May 15, 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 5/15/2008, 10:38:12 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

I just got off of another teleconference with John McCain. Here are my notes, not quotes, from the teleconference.

McCain's Opening Statement

I gave a speech this morning about how I would want America to look after my first term in office in 2013. I want people to see what I want to do. By 2013, I think we will have won in Iraq. There may be sporadic fighting or attacks by Jihadists, but the Iraqi military would have control of the country and American troops would be out of harm's way, even though we may still have our troops in the country.

I'd be glad to debate Obama or Hillary on whether the surge is working and whether we are winning right now. It's long, hard, tough -- and was mishandled for four years -- and I fought against that failed strategy, but in 2013 we will have won. That won't mean everything is perfect, but we will not have chaos, genocide, increasing Iranian influence -- and we'd have to go back. That's what would happen if Obama gets his way.

Q&A Session

What are your views of what is happening in Lebanon and do you think we should be talking to Iran? Also, Bush talked about the dangers of appeasement. Some comment on that?

Bush says he wasn't talking about Obama and there are plenty of examples in history of the danger of appeasement. I think one of the reasons the Democrats got so upset is because Obama is really naive to want to sit down with Iran. They pronounced Israel as a "stinking corpse," they're sending weapons into Iraq that are killing Americans, and they're a terrorist state.

In Lebanon, we essentially see a proxy war between the US and Iran. If Senator Obama wants to sit down across the table from Iran, what is it that he wants to talk about with them? The belief that communication has to be done face to face is unacceptable and that shows Obama doesn't have the knowledge, experience, or background to safeguard this country. I look forward to having that debate with him.

What would it take for you to sit down with Iran?

I would have Iran renounce their intention to wipe Israel off the map. If they did that and promised not to pursue nuclear devices -- and stopped training people to kill Americans in Iraq and their sponsorship of terrorist organizations like Hezbollah, then perhaps we can have a meaningful discussion.

They are not interested in doing these things because they are trying to realize age-old Persian ambitions in the region. What does he want to talk to them about? All he would end up doing is giving them a prestige enhancement and more sway in the region.

How do you hold your opponent accountable when his staff flat-out lies and the media covers for him?

Obama says he's going to unilaterally negotiate NAFTA. Canada said that they might sell their oil to China if that happens. But, in NC, he says he's a free trader. He's changing positions. He's inconsistent and contradicts himself.

Have you talked to Newt about issues?

I have talked to him a few times, have watched him on TV, and have read a couple of his books. I would be pleased to have conversations with Newt because I think he has some of the best ideas in this country. I intend to talk to him from time to time because I think he's a very smart person.

You say that you're against subsidies, but you favor helping nuclear power. How do you reconcile this?

The problems with nuclear power are of our own making. We don't reprocess nuclear fuel. It takes 10-15 years to get a nuclear power plant going. The Yucca Mountain gridlock is remarkable. I want to encourage research and push very hard for nuclear power. I think it's important to reduce greenhouse gasses. We should invest in clean coal technology as well. I have always supported government investment in research and development.

Why did you announce a timeline to leave Iraq? (Hawkins' Note: What a stupid question.)

Either you didn't read or understand my speech. I know that we're going to win in Iraq as we did in WWII and the Gulf War. With victory comes the withdrawal of troops. You don't set a date for withdrawal. There is no date for surrender. I will have it dictated by the facts on the ground.

Let me explain the difference: if you announce a date for withdrawal as Obama and Clinton want to do, it means you are surrendering, and the bad guys just wait for the date.

How do you plan to take care of those troops when they do come home?

I've been recognized time and time again for supporting the troops by veterans' organizations. I will do everything I can to care for them. I believe in improving health care for vets. I want to increase their educational benefits. I also want to encourage people to stay in the military. I will match my credentials with veterans with Clinton or Obama any time.

You say you want to work towards bipartisanship. What positions would you be willing to appoint Democrats to in your administration?

I have a clear record of working with Democrats. I don't have a specific position in mind, but I will ask the most capable people, Democrat or Republican, for a position. I will appoint Democrats to my administration.

Summary: I gotta tell you: McCain sounded good in this teleconference. He trafficked in ideas, he had an appealing vision for the future, and he drew pointed comparisons between what he wanted to do and what Obama wants to do at every opportunity. For all of his flaws, McCain comes across as a tough, experienced leader -- and an unaccomplished empty suit like Barack Obama is really going to come across like a lightweight compared to McCain once people start getting down to brass tacks and making the decision between the two of them.

PS: Go here to check out John McCain's vision for America in 2013. I don't agree with every single thing, but overall, it's a pretty picture, especially compared to the sort of socialism that Obama wants to inflict on the country.

PS #2: The teleconference was packed and although I wanted to ask him a question, I didn't get the opportunity. However, they did tell us we could email in questions and I sent the following question, which I would have asked, to the campaign to get a response,

Mr. McCain, let me read something you were quoted as saying a few days ago, "We get in this kind of a circular firing squad on immigration reform in the Congress of the United States and the lesson I learned from it is we’ve got to have comprehensive immigration reform."

Now, you've been saying for months that you learned your lesson and that we need security first, not a comprehensive immigration bill. That doesn't seem to gibe with that quote. So, could you elaborate a bit?

When I get a response, I will post it to RWN.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; iran; iraq; mccain; obama; presbushknesset08; rino; wot
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Agree with you. He can now see that the border issue has to keep national security issues above any social or commercial aspect at this point.

41 posted on 5/16/2008, 2:39:10 AM by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: glock rocks
A really funny post, Glock. Made me really LOL.

Leni

42 posted on 5/16/2008, 2:58:09 AM by MinuteGal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wish McCain would stand to the Dems as much as he stands up to terrorist countries.


43 posted on 5/16/2008, 3:19:44 AM by Reader Poster
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To: B4Ranch
What are you? An eco terrorist? A multitasking rodeo rider trying to show the audience that the corruptness of the Dims and the lies of the Right are melded into one and the same political tune.





It helps to remember that the Clinton-Bush coziness goes back to the days of Iran-Contra, when Papa Bush was supervising covert arms shipments to Latin America out of Arkansas (with drugs making the return trip) and Governor Clinton was busy looking the other way. Further, as was clear during abortive Republican investigations into various Clinton scandals, in the culture of impunity of Washington, politics stops at corruption's edge. Almost all major corruption is either bipartisan or common enough that one side can effectively blackmail the other.

44 posted on 5/16/2008, 3:33:28 AM by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Norman Bates

The irony of someone named Norman Bates being a McCain apologist is priceless. The GOP has gone psycho.


45 posted on 5/16/2008, 3:35:45 AM by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Norm I agree that he puts does conditions. Let’s recall the conditions he laid down concerning taking care of our borders before naturalizing the illegal aliens. Is anyone here honestly thinking John is going to make sure those conditions are honestly met? And if so, do we want to legalize 25 million illegals and accept the 1 to 75 chain migrants each will bring in?

John’s preconditions are merely pawns on a chess-board. I don’t trust the guy at all.


46 posted on 5/16/2008, 3:54:08 AM by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, and always win, your nation will be destroyed.)
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To: glock rocks

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does.
You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on
appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don’t control monetary policy, The Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress.
In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
They have no legal authority.
They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.
I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.
No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.

The president can only propose a budget.
He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.

Who is the speaker of the House?
She is the leader of the majority party.
She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want.
If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility.

I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.
If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.
If the Marines are in Iraq , it’s because they want them in Iraq .

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.

Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like ‘the economy,’ ‘inflation’ or ‘politics’ that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist
of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper


47 posted on 5/16/2008, 3:57:52 AM by B4Ranch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s the way I see it....Obama is a huge threat to this country.


48 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:02:04 AM by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Don't piss in my eye and tell me it's raining.

I didn't realize it was you.
49 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:02:06 AM by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: B4Ranch

Damn straight.


50 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:02:15 AM by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
1. "Amnesty" = Bush / McCain / Kyl
2. Censorship = McCain-Thompson-Bush-Feingold
3. Gas Tax Increase = Gas tax holiday = Gas Tax Decrease
4. Kerry’s Proposed Democrat Ticket = Fantasy
5. Turncoat Who Asked to Switch Parties: McCain (R) / Jeffords (D)
6. McCain’s American Conservative Union Rank 2007 = Higher than every Dem
7. New York Times (D) Endorsed crapped on: McCain
8. Voted to extend Bush tax cuts = McCain + No Ds
9. McCain wants to keep lower the Death Tax
10. McCain wants to raise fix Social Security
11. McCain Bob Barr (D-ACLU/Occupation) is Pro-Terrorist Right
12. McCain/Kennedy(D)/Edwards(D) = No such law; Tobacco = smoke it
51 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:16:45 AM by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Screename envy.


52 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:18:11 AM by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Have you been in a box? I’ve hosted this ping list for well over a year.


53 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:19:19 AM by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

In my view, McCain has always been borderline nuts. His statements from the past few days have elevated him to the “certifiable” stage. This man is dangerous and would be one of the worst presidents this country has ever seen. His willingness to “cross the aisle” and “work with anyone” in order to govern show nothing but his stupidity and naivete. I do not understand how this corrupt, insane, rank politician has been able to continue to get reelected term after term with the kind of kooky krap he continually spews. I have long considered sitting out the November elections. Johnny boy’s global warming stance and his speech of Thursday have done nothing to bolster my belief that a McCain administration would be a bigger disaster than Carter. In fact, I truly believe he is dumber and more dangerous to this country than Jimmah ever was or is. I’ll take a one-term RAT over this bozo, thanks.


54 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:23:21 AM by thelastvirgil
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To: B4Ranch
Oh yeah, my fav is Republicans who run as “fiscal conservatives” laud how many millions they spend in their campaign literature...
55 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:33:28 AM by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: thelastvirgil

Yes, because you know it will just be one term. With that kind of conifdence you would make a fine player of Russian roulette.


56 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:34:47 AM by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

To be fair, he did not say they couldn’t be conservative democrats...There are one or two left.


57 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:43:19 AM by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Norman Bates

Ironic that you use the Russian Roulette analogy. That is about as accurate a metaphor for the choices we face in November as I have yet heard. Either way it goes, we are screwed. I see no difference between a disastrous RAT administration and a disastrous McCain administration. It is going to be a very long four years — maybe even 8, as you suggest —, but the Republican party needs a good ass whoopin’ in order for them to realize that conservatism is not a disease. The current party leaders need a harsh, painful lesson and a huge dose of reality. If it takes a couple of RAT administrations to bring the party back, that is a small price to pay. No McCain in ‘08.


58 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:46:38 AM by thelastvirgil
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To: thelastvirgil
I see no difference between a disastrous RAT administration and a disastrous McCain administration.

You must give me the name of your occulist.

the Republican party country needs a good ass whoopin’ in order for them to realize that conservatism is not a disease.

Yep let's throw the whole country overboard on a whim. Wait. That's stupid. A couple of RAT administrations will put us all in dire straits to make the Clinton years look fond.
59 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:53:35 AM by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You nailed it. So many here don’t see it. IMO, we are going to go through a lot of changes beyond our control over the next four years. We need someone who is stable to lead us through these times. Somewhat like Gerald Ford after the Nixon debacle. He didn’t do anything but he was able to maintain stability in troubled times.


60 posted on 5/16/2008, 4:57:57 AM by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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