Posted on 05/17/2008 9:22:13 AM PDT by Kevin J waldroup
The “food versus fuel” debate being waged in the United States has been nothing more than a cleverly planned public relations campaign. A request for a public relations proposal put forth by the Grocery Manufacturers Association and the media campaign response by the Glover Park Group prove that there has been a concerted effort to attack the ethanol industry. Both documents were recently made public by long-time ethanol advocate, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa.
The GMA represents more than 300 food, beverage and consumer household goods companies in the United States. The association released a request for a public relations campaign to combat the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. The request states: “GMA has concluded that rising food prices, global shortages of basic commodities, and new studies on the environmental impacts of corn ethanol create a window to change perceptions about the benefits of bio-fuels and the mandate and, ultimately, to build a groundswell in support of freezing or reversing some provisions of the 2007 Energy Bill…”
The response to the GMA’s request by the Glover Park Group lays out a strategy to undermine the ethanol industry: “First, we must obliterate whatever intellectual justification might still exist for corn-based ethanol among policy elites.”
(Excerpt) Read more at ethanolproducer.com ...
Yeah... it couldn't possibly be common sense observation of the dynamics of another failed government pork program. /s
By paying for subsidies, you aren’t even seeing some of your cost up front.
No kidding.
All of this because celebrities, gutless pandering politicians and a few lunatic fringe envirowackos outlawed domestic exploration and drilling.
What's not to like about this "fuel"?
I’m pretty sure E-85 is 85% ethanol, not 15%.
E85 is blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. Its benefits include reduced emissions of greenhouse gases and a reduced dependence on petroleum. GM is the leader in E85 production models, with more than 2.5 million E85-capable cars, trucks and SUVs on the road – with more on the way. Chevrolet offers seven E85-capable models in 2008.
This is a typical leftist response to effective arguments. Do not talk about the substance but instead talk about the method or nature of the attack. We should learn that the only technique to debate a leftist is to hit them hard enough to make them cry. I’m so tired. Why are we even debating the silliness of creating fuel highly inefficiently from corn? It never could’ve been a solution for our fuel “needs no more than solar or any of the other crack pot ideas that have been presented. Hydrogen could work but it would not be the panacea presented by the left. There is no free lunch, we need to stop looking at pie in the sky and deal with what we have to work with and that is leverage the massive coal, oil, and nuclear resources that are still available to us until we can move onto something else.
Conservation and all the other “green” ideas are not feasible unless we are willing to give up huge amounts of personal liberty for less and less return. It is not only unnecessary but foolish and would result in millions of people dying as we refuse to use the resources we have in hopes of a miracle solution. We should punish politicians who have not given us more refineries and who have refused to let us drill the oil on the coast and in the ANWR. The Chinese are drilling off the coast of Cuba tapping billions of barrels of oil available to us also if only we could throw off the yoke of the Democrat radical environmentalists.
That is another thing. Why in the hell hasn’t the GOP gotten a clue when it comes to how to attack the Democrats. They and their constitutes are more responsible than anyone other group for our inability to of the US to effectively deal with out energy needs. They have stood in the way of building new refineries, have locked millions of tons of coal and billions of barrels of oil out of reach. They have stood in the way of Nuclear power and all the while having us waste billions chasing pipe dreams and global warming.
Why doesn’t someone in the GOP figure this out? Are they really the bunch of senile old men and Northern VA yuppies they appear to be who wouldn’t know conservatism if it bit them in the ass?
We could go on with issue after issue. All the social issues and immigration. Most of America does not want Homosexual marriage, most of America believes it is a disgusting behavior, the same goes for abortion, and most of America believes in strong borders. How can you not win when one party, the Democrats, have so entirely embraced the radicals on the left? Is there anyone one groups which is more Anti-American and ready to rush into the arms of our enemies? If the GOP does not wake up and realize this is war not a tea party they are going to cast this country into the hands of Barack Obama and set back conservatism even further than it has already been set back.
I’m beginning to believe what we need to do is start a shadow party which funnels donations only to candidates who are conservative and believe in the founding principles. The Bloombergs, the Schwarzeneggers, and countless others are blurring the identity of the Republican party and making it a impossible to restrain the beast of bureaucracy that is “slouching towards Gomorrah”. If someone doesn’t wake up and stop the insanity and provide some vision that isn’t tinged with 60s love ballads for Democrat and Republican unity (which means they win and we give in) then we are going to face an even darker generation dominated even more by judicial oligarchy and legislative disregard for the constitution.
I don’t mind being corrected, as I didn’t know E85 was gasoline/ethanol mixture.
However, get off your high horse and try posting in a respectful manner.
By the way, I did the math correctly, based on E85 being pure ethanol.
People are attacking the ethanol industry because IT’S A BAD IDEA! The ethanol as fuel industry only exists because of the government is currying favor with special interests. Or is it the other way around? Whatever. It is not efficient and is not the answer to our energy needs.
Ethanol belongs in a bottle or can. Usually with “Beefeater” or “Coors” written on it. It doesn’t belong in my gas tank.
Good for them. I'm all behind the GMA on this one. If Grassley wants ethanol so badly then let him make it out of seaweed, algae, kudzu, or the corn that issues forth from his own mouth and Congress -- not the things we actually digest.
I always get a chuckle of wonderment when some green brags that ETOH is “cheaper” than gasoline. When you factor in the mileage loss due to less heat of combustion of 15%(due to the right wing conspiracy), the true cost of ETOH is:
3.59/.85 =$3.74/gallon. Of course not counting the subsidy, which we should all be willing to pay, in order to “save the planet”& ‘punish the Arabs ( this to appeal to the average bitter white person”).
barbra ann
The amount of energy it takes to make ethanol means we end up giving more money to the thugs of the world, and we end up with an inferior product.
Ethanol is the ‘E’ at the start of EVIL in dEVIL rum!
Mark
It’s the other way around. E85 is 85% ethanol.
What’s sold regularly at gas stations is E10 or E15.
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