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Cable News "Vintage" Video Fakery
fanity ^ | 06/05/2008 | myself

Posted on 06/05/2008 2:43:56 PM PDT by dangerfield

I have noticed that some recent video footage is being doctored to appear as if it is 20 or 30 years old. It seems choppy (as if it were film) and even in slow-motion. It is grainy.

They want a retro look, obviously, and I think it's to give pictures of Obama some historical 'gravity'. I doubt I'm the first to notice or comment, maybe I am the first to express my dismay. Is this being discussed anywhere on the media blogs?

This morning's video offering, some dull, unremarkable footage of Obama getting out of his limo and entering a building, was very reminescient of video you'll find in the youtube vaults that date back to the early '70's.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: fakery
I was expecting Sara Jane Moore to jump into the picture.

btw, I linked to MSNBC as an URL is required to post. But I'm pretty certain they are the P.T. Barnum geniuses who came up with this idea.

1 posted on 06/05/2008 2:43:56 PM PDT by dangerfield
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To: MindBender26

Pinging to Mindbender. This is up his alley.


2 posted on 06/05/2008 2:47:31 PM PDT by library user
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To: dangerfield
The Bum

3 posted on 06/05/2008 2:51:04 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: I see my hands

WTF?! That’s been on YouTube more than a year and only has 31 views!


4 posted on 06/05/2008 2:55:13 PM PDT by library user
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To: cajungirl

watch msnbc and see if you spot this...


5 posted on 06/05/2008 3:14:42 PM PDT by dangerfield
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To: library user
The higher up the cherry tree the sweeter grows the cherry.

6 posted on 06/05/2008 3:16:54 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: dangerfield

Are they stealing it from Youtube?

Either that or they are compressing their own tape archives and “dumbing down” the video (A) to save space (B) to denigrate it so that others won’t steal it (C) to distinguish it from a present day clip and/or (D) because it is quicker to search and air video from the “digital” vault than to pull out the tapes (see A).


7 posted on 06/05/2008 3:31:06 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: dangerfield

Was Larry Sinclair driving the limo or riding in the back with Barak Hussein?


8 posted on 06/05/2008 3:58:47 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: library user
I haven't seen any of these yet.

You can make video look old very easily. In non-linear (computer) editing, you can add all sorts of effects. One is called “film look,” others add occasional dust, scratches, etc.

Easiest way to determine true age of video is to look at what you are seeing, especially the things away from the center of interest. If it looks like 1970s film, but there is a 2002 Yugo in the background, well, you get the idea.

Of course, any good editor can cover that kind of thing. Look for things like haircut styles (There is great film of J.C. Watts in the Orange Bowl taking about 45 seconds to stuff his ‘Fro into his helmet) women's fashions, men's tie widths, men's suit lapel widths, etc. Michelle is a snappy dresser. Her clothes and hair style will be a giveaway.

Also, how old does the principal look. If Obama looks 45 in the video, he probably was.

Early video tape (1980s field tape, not the stuff shot in a studio) can get a very pastel look, especially if edited down 3 or 4 generations.

1970s video shot in a studio such as a news show will not disolve or cut to a video tape. They did not have frame lock and if they didn't go to black before and after the tape, the picture would roll.

Look for style. Early news reports had very long individual sound bites, very “officialezze,” as much as 30 and 45 seconds per bite. They have become shorter every year. Also, if it's really film, the fidelity will be bad.

Look for mic flags. Networks and individual stations often change the styles. If I can see a mic flag (those attachments on a microphone that tell you whose mike it is, who the reporter works for) I can probably date the video within 3 to 4 years.

Wireless handheld mics? New.

If he is speaking in a prepared speech in front of 10 or 15 assembled microphones, it is probably old. Now they use one or two mics and a “mult (multiple output) box.”

The real trick is to watch it ten or fifteen times. You will begin to see things you never saw the first time.

Good luck and send me any links and I'll give it my best guess.

9 posted on 06/05/2008 4:03:02 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: I see my hands; dangerfield; library user
For example, this “The Bum” video is pretty new.

If the video was really as old as the “dust and scratches” would indicate, there would be problems with the film jumping in the film gate, exposure changes, etc.

The clothes and glasses are new,,,,,

10 posted on 06/05/2008 4:08:05 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

good information, and common sense. This makes it all the more insulting to the viewer. But I’m wondering as to motive. Why is MSNBC using this style when they have new video of Obama?


11 posted on 06/05/2008 8:20:38 PM PDT by dangerfield
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Why is MSNBC using this style when they have new video of Obama?

They're trying to add 'Gravitas', which is in short supply in the Obama household.

12 posted on 06/05/2008 9:10:22 PM PDT by IncPen (We are but a moment's sunlight, fading in the grass ...)
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To: dangerfield

Do you have a link to the video itself?

A youtube link, possibly

A have a friend who will move this story to other msm!

Thanx.


13 posted on 06/05/2008 10:13:10 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: dangerfield

great find but I can’t find the video!

Amazing and subversive.


14 posted on 06/06/2008 4:01:26 AM PDT by cajungirl
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