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Vegan girl, 12, 'has spine of 80-year-old'
Times Online ^ | 6/8/08 | Mark Macaskill

Posted on 06/11/2008 10:38:39 AM PDT by Dawnsblood

A girl of 12 brought up by her parents on a strict vegan diet has been admitted to hospital with a degenerative bone condition said to have left her with the spine of an 80-year-old.

Doctors are under pressure to report the couple, from Glasgow, to police and social workers amid concerns her health and welfare may have been neglected in pursuit of their beliefs.

The youngster, fed on a strict meat- and dairy-free diet from birth, is being treated at the city’s Royal Hospital for Sick Children. She is said to have a severe form of rickets and to have suffered a number of fractured bones. The condition is caused by a lack of vitamin D, which is needed to absorb calcium and is found in liver, oily fish and dairy produce.

Dr Faisal Ahmed, the consultant treating the child, said he believed the dangers of forcing children to follow a strict vegan diet needed to be highlighted. “Something like this needs publicity,” he said. However, he refused to blame the parents, who are understood to be well-known figures in Glasgow’s vegan community: “We shouldn’t name and shame . Mum feels guilty about the whole thing and feels bad about it.”

Jonathan Sher, head of policy at Children in Scotland, said: “If the consequence of parental behaviour is physical, mental or emotional harm to a child, then the child protection system should become involved.” Bill Aitken, justice spokesman for the Scottish Conservatives, added: “If the youngster is coming to clinical harm, something must be done.”

In 2001, British vegans Hazmik and Garabet Manuelyan, from Staines, were sentenced to three years’ community rehabilitation after they admitted starving daughter Arenai, 10 months, to death. She had been fed nothing but breast milk, raw fruit, vegetables and nuts.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: animalrights; childabuse; cpswatch; diet; dontexcerpt; dontsnip; health; needlesslyedited; needlesslyexcerpted; nutrition; postitall; rickets; uk; vegan; veganism; vitamind
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To: AnAmericanMother

1.MSNBC was carrying an AP story on medication use. 2. Other studies confirm the same trend. 3. Many other countries are not totally homogenous, that is what statistics are for.

“It’s also important to note that heart problems and high blood pressure are largely hereditary”

This is exactly the lie big pharma would have us believe.
Low blood prssure indicates parasymapthetic dominance and possible hypoadrenia, easily corrected with mineral level modulation, particularly calcium and magnesium.


121 posted on 06/13/2008 3:00:22 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Cookies No Longer the Top Snack for Kids
In 1987, cookies were the most common snack for children under 6, and fruit ranked second. Today, that order has been reversed; fruit is the most common snack, and cookies are in second place.

In addition, kids today are less likely to consume carbonated soft drinks, ice cream, candy, cake and fruit juice as snacks than kids the same age did 20 years ago.

The information comes from the NPD Group, which tracks national eating trends. The number are based on food and beverage journals from 500 mothers in 1985-1987 and 600 mothers in 2005-2007. The women kept diaries for 14 days on all the foods and beverages consumed by under-age-6 children.

Sources:
USA Today June 11, 2008

I take it your kids are not in the fruit group.


122 posted on 06/13/2008 3:14:06 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Rennes Templar
This "big pharma" stuff gets old.

My internist is an excellent physician and an honest man, and my family has known his family for almost 75 years. Is he a dupe of "big pharma", too, or is he just lying to me for the h*ll of it?

P.S. If you're going to use $5 words, you should be particularly careful to spell them correctly. Otherwise you just look silly.

Are you a chiropractor?

123 posted on 06/13/2008 3:17:52 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Rennes Templar
My kids are perfectly healthy, thank you, though not under 6. One is a BSA Venturer, she's in Costa Rica doing field work for her biology degree, hiking up and down mountains, she's slim as a reed and an expert swimmer, rider and dancer. The other is a USNSCC cadet who runs 50 miles a week and is a rock climber and mountain biker, wants to join the USMC (I wish them the joy of him!)

We all like fruit AND cookies, in moderation. Moderation is generally a good thing.

124 posted on 06/13/2008 3:22:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Rennes Templar
Yep, I checked the list of countries and not a-one that I was referring to was there.

But whatever. Go eat your carrot and feel like you're immortal. Everyone dies eventually. Regardless of what they eat. Kellogg and Graham all went through these fads, too. But whatever, you'll have to learn the lesson on your own.

As far as your kids are concerned, though. Don't starve them to death because it makes you feel righteous.

125 posted on 06/13/2008 3:44:17 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Veto!

I’m a vegan and my bone density scans are in the high range. And I donate platelets a couple times a month and my iron count is very high (it has to be higher than normal to donate platelets for an extended period of time). I don’t lecture anyone, I just eat what I want, and my health is very good. I haven’t even had a cold or flu/fever in seven or eight years.


126 posted on 06/13/2008 4:13:32 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Yaelle

I don’t get it either. Don’t most babies take breast milk for at least the first year, and isn’t most baby just raw fruits and vegetables that have been pureed, with maybe a little water added? I don’t think babies under a year usually eat nuts because of allergies, but otherwise I don’t see the problem. What should the baby have been fed?


127 posted on 06/13/2008 4:20:02 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: massgopguy
Bruce Freidrick will spin this like a washing machine.

Isn't Freidrick the once who once said in a speech that he could support the bombing of a meat packing plant? I know he said something like that at least once...I heard Howie Carr play the clip or read a transcript of the comment.

128 posted on 06/13/2008 4:28:40 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

“This “big pharma” stuff gets old.’

Watch one hour of any major network or cable TV and you’ll see several drug ads in a short time. Yet there are hundreds and hundreds of cases of healings, recoveries and cancer regressions daily with alternative methods. How often do you hear about these through the MSM? (But when there is a case like the vegan girl, it’s everywhere.) And all the medical TV series. Pure propoganda.

If they were to shift their focus to alernative medicine, big pharma would collapse quickly. I am a DC, practicing for 25 years, have helped about 10,000 get out of the medical paradigm. You and your family are healthy. You have no clue about many people that come for alternatives, exasperated with medical mismanagement or failures with their health problems.

There is value in medicine, and good MD’s. My point is it’s
emphasis is on treatment, not prevention, the latter only getting lip service. Case in point, mammography screening for breast cancer. I have had dozens of patients told by their MD’s, “There’s something there. We’ll watch it and screen again in 6 months to see if it advances.” Absolutley no advice given, due to lack of training in, on how to reduce lympahtic congestion, or other causes, such as dairy consumption. To me this is not only shameful, it is criminal.


129 posted on 06/13/2008 11:10:44 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

My daughter is 17 yrs old, lacto-vegetarian all her life, never been vaccinated, constantly keeping the boys at bay, and studying voice training for opera in addition to her regular studies.

“Everyone dies eventually. Regardless of what they eat.”

Ah, sweet death.

It is your kind that inspired my tagline.


130 posted on 06/13/2008 11:19:41 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: AFPhys

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131 posted on 06/13/2008 11:38:53 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Rennes Templar
Well, I knew you or someone close to you was a food nazi and that you were arguing from emotion, not intellect, thus the constant crutch of the straw-man argument.

As studies have proved, your daughter must keep a very close eye on her bones for the rest of her life, as she is in the high-risk group for osteoporosis.

And, as I said, if that's how she enjoys her life, and it was her choice, all power to her.

If obese people enjoy their lives, all power to them and the finger to the food nazis trying to shove their definition of the acceptable life upon others, and the finger to parents who starve their children to make themselves feel better, as did the parents in the news article, and which is still the real subject of this thread.

132 posted on 06/14/2008 6:22:54 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

LOL!


133 posted on 06/14/2008 6:29:14 AM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Food nazi is itself an emotion-charged term. Using it does not bolster your “emotional argument case”

Fact: Osteoporosis is rare in many parts of the world, particiularly Asia, where animal protein consumption is much lower than in the West. Here, with our high animal protein and high dairy diets, osteoporosis is pervasive.

My daughter was no where capable of making any such lifestyle decison on her own, as children should not be making any such decisons or choices, but guided by their parents. I will admit the parents were at fault for the vegan daughter. But as I pointed out to AmericanMom, the MSM medical propoganda machine loves to headline these freak stories; never the (rapidly increasing) amazing cases of alternative interventions.


134 posted on 06/14/2008 8:05:49 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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