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Unstamped certificate suggests Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen (Updated 6/26)
Israel Insider ^ | June 26, 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 06/27/2008 2:51:17 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: mdmathis6
Actually, I would think that a relatively small group of people could file in federal court, against their state for putting either Obama’s or McCain's name on the ballot due to reasons of natural born citizen.

This would require an affirmative ruling by the court and could create situation where a special master could be the “controller” of the documentation and rule one way or the other.

21 posted on 06/27/2008 3:43:34 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Political Junkie Too

I heard from the MSM (CBS?) that in his first primary, Obama forced out a candidate by ruling her inelligible (did not have every i dotted and every t crossed).

What’s good for the goose...


22 posted on 06/27/2008 3:49:22 PM PDT by weegee
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To: taxcontrol

McCain’s dad was serving in the military. A US base is not US territory? Our embassies are US territory too.

Obama’s dad was not a citizen. And he was already married. And he was gone by age 2.


23 posted on 06/27/2008 3:50:47 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Red Steel

24 posted on 06/27/2008 3:52:00 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: Paige

I agree with you. But don’t forget that we were just one justice’s opinion away from having the Second Amendment declared unconstitutional. Liberals will do anything to attain power.


25 posted on 06/27/2008 3:53:14 PM PDT by twntaipan (NOBAMA! Say No to B.O.!)
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To: Red Steel

Let’s make this a non-issue by insuring he is defeated at the polls.


26 posted on 06/27/2008 3:56:47 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Because Obama is a pathological liar who will stop at nothing in order to gain power for himself.

He does not care about the fools in his camp.

He does not care about the multiple deceptions that he presents.

He does not care about the taxpayer dollars that he takes.

He does not care about anyone or anything except himself.

He is an extortionist, a thug and a racist.

I hope that is all he will ever be.

27 posted on 06/27/2008 3:57:03 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: weegee
Thanks. Updating my post...

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You gotta love the hypocricy. Obama:

1) Challenged qualifying signatures on all his Illinois State Senate Democrat primary opponents' applications (see Alice Palmer), running unopposed,

2) had sealed divorce records of his Democrat primary opponent Blair Hull exposed, revealing accusations of wife-beating and forcing Hull out of the primary,

1) had sealed divorce records of his Republican opponent Jack Ryan exposed, revealing accusations of wanting to perform public sex acts and forcing Ryan out of the general election.

It seems that Obama can't win without legal technicalities or by destroying his opponent by exposing sealed private records. So now, people want Obama's records exposed, and there aren't any, anwhere?

-PJ

28 posted on 06/27/2008 4:02:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: weegee

Or “What goes around comes around...”


29 posted on 06/27/2008 4:08:11 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: weegee

Either way, a test case in US court would quickly end this issue once and for all.


30 posted on 06/27/2008 4:08:25 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Red Steel

Why is the certificate # blacked out?

African is not a race! In 1961, wouldn't Negro or Negroid have been used to describe his Father's race instead of African?

Where is the indentation of the official seal and the folded marks, the rest of us have on our valid birth certificate copies?

Last but not least: What are the reverse purple lettering past the last entry line on the lower middle right? What do they mean, and why are they there?

Did Dan Blather's former liar/inept forgier, Mary Mapes create this bs?

Is this phoney birth certificate just another example of the Real but Fake Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate for Changing America?

Compare this doctored and phoney BC with a real one shown below:

We probably have as much chance of seeing a real copy of his birth certificate as seeing John Kerry’s full military record. Kerry refused to release his military records, and Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate will probably not show his BC. We will be labeled as racists for daring to question his birth.

31 posted on 06/27/2008 4:35:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: twntaipan

Oh without a doubt, and the good thing, Senator McCain was very pleased with the ruling.

But, I haven’t found Senator McCain’s remarks on the Supreme Court Ruling where the Justices struck down part of Campaign Finance Reform. Senator McCain will run from any comments on the CFR ruling in order to keep from having foot in mouth disease after he helped to orchestrate the horrible piece of legislation.


32 posted on 06/27/2008 4:42:45 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: mdmathis6

“Somebody with deep pockets is going to have to go to court and demand proof of Obama’s eligibility to run for office...”

It will be dangerous and costly. And it would likely take a Democrat for reasons of standing. Just being a citizen probably won’t cut it.

And still it could go either way. There is enough stare decisis out there to decide against disclosure first and find case law later.


33 posted on 06/27/2008 4:45:28 PM PDT by esquirette (If we do not have our own world view, we will accept theirs.)
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To: imintrouble
"...Why would he attempt to run for President knowing the requirement was a necessity - which he could have clarified years ago when he ran for Senate..."

Because he's a lawyer?

34 posted on 06/27/2008 4:51:32 PM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: esquirette
It makes one wonder how the NYT can leak secret prisons, secret bank transaction tracing, secret foreign wiretaps, secret agent names, etc., but nobody can leak a simple ordinary birth certificate?

-PJ

35 posted on 06/27/2008 4:52:27 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Red Steel
Then Obama will be charged with deceptive tactics by misleading the public for political gain.

How? Because some people doubt that the image of the form he released is valid?

36 posted on 06/27/2008 4:54:20 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Grampa Dave
From HotAir.com
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/27/st-petersburg-times-sort-of-verifies-obamas-birth-certificate/

The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.

“I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”

Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.

And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? “When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.”…

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I've come to the conclusion that Okubo is covering the best she can for Obama.

Okubo: “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”

BS. Patricia Decosta's Birth Certificate shows the certifying markings from a scan of the front.

Okubo: And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? “When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.”…

More BS. The dude must have super xray vision. But Ms. Okubo, you just told us that "you wouldn't see those things" from a front side scan of a Hawaiian birth certificate.

Ms. Okubo, why don't the Obama people rescan the document using a higher resolution scanning, the front and back, and republish it back online? I'm waiting miss Okubo...it wouldn't take the Obama people more than 2 minutes to do the job. Are they incompetent or do they have something to hide?

37 posted on 06/27/2008 5:00:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The black box that redacts the birth certificate was done by a computer.

Who did that? Obama or the state of Hawaii?


38 posted on 06/27/2008 5:04:55 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Red Steel
"Hawaii state law (HRS §338-18) prevents disclosure of information contained in vital statistics records except to those people who have a direct and tangible interest in the record as defined by statute."

Doesn't that statute say that a relative qualifies? I still say we should get cousin Dick Cheney to request a copy of Obama's birth certificate!

-PJ

39 posted on 06/27/2008 5:05:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Hell, don’t we *all* have a direct and tangible interest??


40 posted on 06/27/2008 5:11:00 PM PDT by Raebie
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