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Lake County Shrieff Hit boat Kills Boater Skipper on Boat hit is charged with manslaughter.
Latitude 38 Publishing Co., Inc. ^ | May 21, 2008 | Latitude 38

Posted on 06/28/2008 10:20:32 PM PDT by troy McClure

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To: ItsForTheChildren

All our hit boat are belong to us.


21 posted on 06/28/2008 11:12:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: robomatik

22 posted on 06/28/2008 11:14:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: PAR35
Maybe you should post the most important part of this issue:

"Several witnesses on shore, including a retired law enforcement officer, said the running lights were on. Tellingly, these witnesses had to be forced upon law enforcement officials, who had said they didn't need any more testimony. Furthermore, William Chilcott, a marine safety scientist, has testified that Beats Workin' II's running lights had been on and went off at the instant of impact."

Seems like the cops don't necessarily want to know the truth. Typical corrupt LEA trying to cover up for one of their own.

23 posted on 06/28/2008 11:18:33 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SpaceBar
These "prosecutors" are clearly ignorant of maritime right-of-way.

Lying about it is more likely the case in an attempt to avoid prosecuting the real criminal.

24 posted on 06/28/2008 11:19:54 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SpaceBar
These "prosecutors" are clearly ignorant of maritime right-of-way.

It's not a right-of-way issue if the boat was invisible in the dark. Lights are also required.

25 posted on 06/28/2008 11:23:24 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: troy McClure; aculeus; dighton
Here's an example of an article written in Babelfish. The author is fluent.
26 posted on 06/28/2008 11:31:14 PM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: troy McClure
I would not want to be on any small craft doing 40 MPH at night especially on a lake. I've been around boats all my life and night time is no time to be in a hurry in one. I think the investigator has it right the police boats speed was the biggest factor in it. Boat rules are the same as automobiles in the sense you do not drive above a safe speed for the conditions. The best of boaters can make mistakes at night that's why most ones with any common sense throttle down. The only way I'd blame the sail boat operator is if his lights were out.

Some people think hey I'm on the water not asphalt so it's safe. I've nearly been ran over by a cruise ship before in severe fog. Thanks to the good Lord and the cruise ships electronics it was a miss although the ship was in the channel moving at a good speed. When you're on a 50 footer Utility Boat and are close enough to suddenly see inside the passenger cabins and the people in them that's too darn close.

28 posted on 06/28/2008 11:47:03 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: NoLibZone

absolutely correct. the speed boat should yield to the sail boat. Both boats should have had their running lights on since it was dark.


29 posted on 06/28/2008 11:48:13 PM PDT by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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To: cva66snipe

There are conflicting reports about whether or not Beats Workin’ II had her running lights on. Several witnesses on shore, including a retired law enforcement officer, said the running lights were on.


30 posted on 06/28/2008 11:52:52 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: willyd

I know.

At Havasu I stay well away from the sailboat on that lake!

And At nite with the lights on I would never dream of doing 40mph!


31 posted on 06/28/2008 11:54:22 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Could be.


32 posted on 06/28/2008 11:54:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: papasmurf; troy McClure
Greetings papasmurf & troy McClure:

National and International law requires the right of way be given to the least maneuverable vessel.

First, that is not always the case. RULE 9, Narrow Channels. Huck Finn's raft, whether floating down the Mississippi or the Delaware; while less maneuverable, does not have the right of way.

Second, location matters. Not enough information in the story to make an educated guess. Where did the mishap take place? International, Inland, Western Rivers, or State waters. A whole string of 72 COLREGS Steering and Sailing Rules are in play with this incident. A good maritime attorney will know.

Given a loss of life occurred and a law enforcement agency is involved; the nearest USCG unit should be called to conduct an independent investigation.

Cheers,
OLA

33 posted on 06/28/2008 11:55:26 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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To: troy McClure
I lived in Lake County for a number of years. First of all, It's Clearlake. One word. Second, the lake is famous for drunk boating. Many of the bars have piers and it's a regular thing to anchor, drink, boat, anchor, drink, boat. In fact, DRINK is the County hobby. I took my better half up there recently. Deliberately, I drove him by the home of a certain citizen. This guy has a 18 foot trailer on his property of about 20 acres. Next to the trailer is a doughboy pool, 15 foot across, 4 feet deep. As he empties beers, he tosses the cans into the doughboy. He also raises goats for food and sale. I didn't say a word to my BH, but just drove by. He turned to me and said, "did I just see a swimming pool full of beer cans and a goat smack in the middle chewing on one?" Why yes, yes you did. The hermit was special. A friend of the good old boys, so he has lived like that for 25 years that I know of. Cashes in his cans once a year to pay his property tax. He also collects roadkill deer and elk off the freeway and slaughters it to sell. No one says a word.

Then we had the old lady. She drives an old buick, and can't see. So she, and I ain't kidding, drives down the road with her head hanging out the window real slow so she can see the lines on the road. Gawd help you if you get behind her. 20 mph in a winding no pass zone for 1/2 the lake front. But she's the mom of one of the city council, so it was overlooked. On the trip, we pulled into the only eating place open after 8PM (locals are in the bar or at home with a 12 pack by 8-specially if they have a couple DUI's to contend with), Pirate Cove Pizza in Upper Lake (population 600 hillbilly drunks). We're sitting there eating when in walks a guy who evidently showered during the Carter administration, just filthy dirty, in torn overalls with pee stains, who burps loudly and yells out to his friends in the back of the room playing pool and drinking "WELL, I GOT RID OF THE OLD LADY." Now, is she dead at the bottom of the lake, or did she just move to Ukiah? We don't know. My BH looked at me and said, "we've gotta get out of here before these retards start playing banjo and making pig sounds *insert Deliverance theme song*".

One of the town doctors has been accused over and over for illegally prescribing "diet pills" and assorted other items. It was fairly common knowledge up there. He ever get charged? Nope. Just can't prescribe medicine for a couple of months a year. I won't even MENTION the conditions at the Indian reservations at the government housing tracks. eeesssshhh.

This is the Appalachian district of California. And this story doesn't surprise me at all. For a place who's known for the world famous "bar stool races", the good old boy network is alive and well. But if you want to FISH, that's the place to go.

34 posted on 06/29/2008 12:02:56 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Better a rino than a jackass....sigh.....)
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To: NoLibZone
There are conflicting reports about whether or not Beats Workin’ II had her running lights on. Several witnesses on shore, including a retired law enforcement officer, said the running lights were on.

They likely were. If the sail boat wasn't moving though only a stern light is required last I recall. Bow lights mean underway and direction of travel. Anyone who's ran at night much knows about optical illusions and the difficulty of establishing distances vs lights. The slower you're going the more reaction time. Fishermen with lanterns hanging off the side of a boat can really mess you up too. But it all dependends on how much light you have such as the moon phase etc as well. I've been in old 14 foot aluminum V hulls with a 7.5 HP on some nights I wouldn't open up.

35 posted on 06/29/2008 12:02:58 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

I don’t see where it say they were in a narrow channel.


36 posted on 06/29/2008 12:10:49 AM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: Hi Heels

Well that was an interesting tour of some place I’ll make it a point to miss if I’m ever in that time zone!


37 posted on 06/29/2008 12:14:53 AM PDT by saganite
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To: troy McClure

where is it?

huh?

like, in a state?


38 posted on 06/29/2008 12:18:18 AM PDT by 4buttons
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To: NoLibZone

Greetings NoLibZone

I don’t either. My point being, because of Rule 9, the LEAST maneuverable vessel DOES NOT ALWAYS have the right of way.

There is not enough information in the article for me to determine the navigation rules jurisdiction.

Cheers,
OLA


39 posted on 06/29/2008 12:23:01 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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To: sofaman
Reads like it was written by a five year old. And the headline makes absolutely no sense.

I would venture to suggest that most 5 year olds could have better written this report. When you have to stop and work at discerning what an author is at trying to relay, it leaves much to be desired:

"Tellingly, these witnesses had to be forced upon law enforcement officials, who had said they didn't need any more testimony

"Late on Tuesday afternoon, the I-Team learned that, just this past Sunday, a sergeant came forward to say he'd been instructed on shore the night of the accident not to give a breath test to Russell Perdock."

40 posted on 06/29/2008 12:37:10 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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