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Anthrax suspect dies in apparent suicide
Los Angeles Times via Kansascity.com ^ | 8/1/08 | David Willman

Posted on 07/31/2008 10:29:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one

One of the nation’s top biodefense researchers has died in Maryland from an apparent suicide, just as the Justice Department was to file criminal charges against him in the anthrax mailing assaults of 2001 that killed five, the Los Angeles Times has learned.

Bruce E. Ivins, 62, who for the past 18 years worked at the government’s elite biodefense research laboratories at Fort Detrick, Md., had been informed of the impending prosecution, people familiar with Ivins, his suspicious death and with the FBI investigation said.

Ivins’ name had not been disclosed publicly as a suspect in the case that disrupted mail service and Senate business three weeks after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The Maryland scientist had for years played a pivotal role in research to improve anthrax vaccines, preparing anthrax formulations used in experiments on animals.

Regarded as a skilled microbiologist, Ivins also had helped the FBI analyze the powdery material recovered from one of the anthrax-tainted envelopes sent to a U.S. senator’s office in Washington, D.C.

Ivins died Tuesday at Frederick Memorial Hospital after having ingested a massive dose of prescription Tylenol mixed with codeine, said a friend and colleague who declined to be identified out of concern, he said, that he would be harassed by the FBI.

The death -- without any mention of suicide -- was announced to Ivins’ colleagues at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, or USAMRIID, through a staffwide e-mail.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 200807; 20080729; amerithrax; anthrax; anthrax2001; bruceeivins; bruceivins; davidwillman; fbi; fortdetrick; ftdetrich; ivins; laslimes; latimes; maryland; suicide; usamriid; willman
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To: nw_arizona_granny

PING


121 posted on 08/01/2008 5:27:11 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Trying to find one!?!?)
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To: LukeL

So if it wasn’t a genuine suicide, then a real sicko did the deed. I could understand a clean kill. Why inflict needless pain— unless it’s a coded message to scare others? On the other hand, maybe there was a psycho doctor who sent the anthrax letters out? Just after 9-11. What a, um, coincidence. Yeah, we’ll buy it, won’t we?


122 posted on 08/01/2008 5:40:47 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Dum-bama Banking Committee offers free breathalysers for asthmatics in 58 states.)
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To: backhoe

ping


123 posted on 08/01/2008 5:42:35 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Dum-bama Banking Committee offers free breathalysers for asthmatics in 58 states.)
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To: RaceBannon; nw_arizona_granny

Great list RB!!!!

Granny have you seen this?


124 posted on 08/01/2008 5:43:22 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Trying to find one!?!?)
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To: guitarplayer1953
How many biochemist have died since 9/11, there are over 44 world wide.

Forty four people in a particular career field died in a seven year time period. Forgive me if I don't panic.

125 posted on 08/01/2008 5:45:05 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Oh really?

What is your definition of free energy?

126 posted on 08/01/2008 5:56:55 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: Canedawg

I’ve heard that autoerotic asphyxiation isn’t a bad way to off oneself. Worked for Michael Hutchence.

As for ODing on painkillers: Vicodin contains two active ingredients, acetaminophen (aka Tylenol®) dihydrocodeinone (aka hydrocodone). The problem is that the acetaminophen is extremely toxic when taken in quantity. 10 grams of acetaminophen taken at once will basically turn your liver into a bloody sponge inside of 24 hours — an agonizing death by inches instead of a painless fade-away.

The drug that causes death in lethal injection executions (sodium thiopethal aka Sodium Pentothal®) will, when given intravenously along with pancuronium bromide and potassium chloride, produce unconsciousness followed by a painless death within ten minutes or so.


127 posted on 08/01/2008 6:32:27 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Vaquero

read smoking gun report about this nut.


128 posted on 08/01/2008 6:54:00 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Cacique

bum for later


129 posted on 08/01/2008 7:09:56 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Strategerist; Sacajaweau

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/anthrax_scientist

He sounds like he might have had a dark side so it would be hard to tell what he thought he was doing. This is the first (this week) that I’ve even heard of this man. So maybe he has a convoluted motive that we might not understand. I am totally confused by this case and have been since the beginning. I hope even more details come out soon.


130 posted on 08/01/2008 7:55:18 PM PDT by Stephanie32
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To: weegee
Funny how they NOW have another suspect.

And a conveniently dead one, at that...

the infowarrior

131 posted on 08/01/2008 8:20:53 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: guitarplayer1953
"What is your definition of free energy?"

First it is impossible to convert heat completely back into work. Free energy would be to do the impossible then add some on top of that.

132 posted on 08/01/2008 8:30:28 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Stephanie32
I would just love to know the motive, if it was this man, what would the motive be?

He doesn't have the profile from what I know of him. His kids went to private religious schools when they were young. Both kids are fairly athletic, one played baseball at UWV, I think his daughter is still in school.

The family has known for some time he was under investigation, but they don't believe he could have done it...

133 posted on 08/01/2008 8:42:25 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

I don’t know. Cause tonight I read that he’d been making threats, that someone had a restraining order against him, that he had kind of a complex where he thought he was “Godlike” and some other things. I posted a link on it before.

If he is a bizarre type of person only they know their own motive and it could be a figment of their imaginations.

There was so little info about this for so many years now and then all of a sudden it’s in the news again. For me, I need to see/hear all of the evidence when it is released and see if it makes sense to me before I form a definite opinion.


134 posted on 08/01/2008 9:01:51 PM PDT by Stephanie32
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To: Stephanie32

He may have his own demons, but his kids are normal all American types ... but maybe he was a ‘closet Cindy Sheehan’ ...


135 posted on 08/01/2008 9:10:16 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

I don’t know if he did it or not but his kids could be perfectly normal and that doesn’t mean he is.
We don’t know who did it yet. It hasn’t been proven. Saddam could have done it.

Cindy Sheehan, are you trying to give me nightmares? Thank God she stopped flapping her gums for a while anyway.Hey, I know,Obama can pick her as his VP choice.


136 posted on 08/01/2008 9:17:41 PM PDT by Stephanie32
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To: Strategerist

44 out of 44,000? I would think they would die faster than that.


137 posted on 08/01/2008 11:28:05 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama, the last man to figure out the Surge ---Except for Nevada's Hopeless Harry)
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To: B-Chan

Codeine is not hydrocodone. Tylenol 3 has codeine, and a massive OD would cause respiratory depression and suffocation, which sounds worse than it feels, because you would be unconscious way before that happened. If you didn’t die right away, though, you might recover, only to die days later of liver failure from the tylenol. That wouldn’t be much fun.


138 posted on 08/02/2008 12:20:12 AM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“Free energy would be to do the impossible then add some on top of that.”

Nonsense. Barack Milhous Dumbama has a magic air pump that can bring energy to all the world.


139 posted on 08/02/2008 6:06:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Dum-bama Banking Committee offers free breathalysers and inhilators for asthmatics in 58 states.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

So what’s the theory? This list seems statistically significant...all or most involved in fighting bio terrorism.

Saudi funded terror brigades?


140 posted on 08/02/2008 9:16:01 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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