Posted on 08/07/2008 11:33:46 PM PDT by pissant
either that or to “Vince Foster” her
“Those of us who have been following the issue on FR have known about this for a while.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if the top echelon of the Hillary! campaign have known about it all along, perhaps in even more depth than has been uncovered by the blogosphere.
They just couldn’t USE what they knew... and survive....
- John
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Thanks, pissant.
Pinging the list.
Hawaii is a big time Dem. State. He will get his doc’s in order.
I agree with you. It makes no sense to blacken the Certificate number.
I’m not so sure about the birth place being Hawaii.
I am more sure that there are items on the original BC that will be embarrassing to Obama. It can range from the minor to the major in regards to covering up.
Either way, it will be a Swift Boat type detraction for him as he will have to explain it.
e.g. What if the original has him listed as a Muslim? What if it has him listed with the name Dunham?
I did online searches using the pay detective sites on the web. There was no listing for him. This does not mean that he WASNT born in Hawaii, but I’m wondering if he was born in Canada, Vancouver for example?
He’s also listed as being born in two hospitals.
Now the fake BC and you have something that will blow up probably just around the time of the covention.
BTW when does and the ANdy Martin book come out?
That is exactly what I think as well.
Yesterday a coworker told me someone had tried to shoot Obama. Apparently it was a racist distortion (heard from one of those natural-born fans of Obama) of what really happened, that some loudmouthed future mental patient had, in private conversations, threatened to kill the President, oh, and had also threatened Obama.
Denver is gonna be sorry it ever let that Convention of Dunces inside city limits.
She is. She's an unapologetic PUMA.
It appears that the Clintons wanted to nudge outsiders into doing her dirty work,
Yes, she needs to avoid any blood splatter, or the Obamaniacs will have her hide.
but perhaps she got impatient.
Yeah, the Devil always tips his hand.
No problem. Forge an American BC, and register as a democrat...
I’d rather our weak candidate face someone as vulnerable as possible, someone that can’t fight back well, and somone without a sense of humor. That’s Obama. Hillary Clinton knows how to fight. No one expects her to be a ‘messiah’. Her campaign would be energized like never before if she squeaks through with the nomination.
Yes, she’s beatable. But we’re talking about McCain here. We’ll have to win despite him. FRegards ....
Are Techdude and Texas Darlin Hillary supporters?Not sure about TechDude, but TexasDarlin is an extreme Billery supporter..
even a bigger problem will be keeping mccain in check once he is there!
“even a bigger problem will be keeping mccain in check once he is there!”
Right. But I’d rather have McCain to contend with than a Clinton or Obama. This primary is insane. I’m looking up the AA prayer of serenity. [I’ve never been an alchoholic— but many of my relatives are or were.] BRB.
-now that is a bumper sticker in the making! LOL
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
[I try to live by those words and normally do. The prayer goes on]
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.
The CoLB that his campaign released is a forgery.
Someone risked jail time to forge this document.
It takes all of half an hour on the 'net, and about $25-$40 to have a legitimate certified copy of your own BC delivered within a week. (I know this because I just did that very thing last month)
Therefore, I conclude that there must be some compelling reason to falsify his BC.
The compelling reason that comes to mind is that the real document would kick him out of the running for being the most powerful man on earth.
From this I conclude that his true documentation shows one or more of the following truths:
• He was not born in the United States, and is therefore constitutionally unqualified for the job. This is a show stopper. There is no way to "fix" this or inoculate himself against this, or win over voters on this issue. It is the premier campaign killer issue.
Therefore, I regard this as the most probable explanation for the deceit.
All the other possible reasons are much lower grade:
• His BC shows that he's a bastard. Although this might be personally embarrassing, nobody cares, a goodly fraction of the electorate is in the same boat, or closely related to someone who is.
• His birth name isn't Barak Hussein Obama. So what? We already know his his name changed when he was adopted in Indonesia. People can and do change their names, it isn't a crime, or even particularly shady.
The only question it really raises is why did he chose a muslim name? That's rather easy to explain away - he took his genetic father's name. Who can argue with that? Especially when muslim names had some popularity among blacks who didn't know just how deeply involved muslims were in the slave trade.
• His real birth certificate lists his race as something other than "African". This would be more of a problem. His whole campaign is founded on his being "the first black president" come January. Still not lethal to the campaign, but it would be awkward to 'splain away.
• There is something else embarrassing on his official BC.
Like what?
There could be nothing conceivably embarrassing about:
His time of birth
His birthday
His city of birth
His county of birth
His island of birth
His religion (It's not even listed)
His mother's race
The date it was filed
A few things could be a slightly embarrassing:
The serial number? Maybe? Suppose it's really 151-1961-000666?
His father's name wasn't listed. Not terribly unlikely if he and Stanley Ann split up before he was born. No one cares.
His mother's maiden name. Suppose she really did use her Anna Toot drinkin' ID to get married? Would that really suffice as a reason for someone to risk jail time by falsifying his documents? More to the point, would it disqualify Barak? I don't think so. If anything it could be played for the sympathy vote, young naïve Stanley Ann trying to do her best in covering up the mistakes of her youth. Mother's maiden name listed as Anna Toot? Yawn.
That leaves the big enchilada:
His birth name. Was it really the noble and exotic Barak Hussein Obama II?
Or was it Mortimer Snerdly Toot, hmmmm?
Live that one down!
“I shudder to think of a “wright”-style judge that might be appointed by obama! reparations for ALL! -gag me!”
Right, and here’s my new tagline ....
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