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Obama Citizenship Controversy - Did Obama Travel to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport? A Summary.
Many, many different sources | July & August of 2008 | TechDude, Pamela Geller, TexasDarlin, Judah Benjamin, etc

Posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:40 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee

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To: moonpie57

Actually they worked for an Obama supporter, they may have been removing something.


41 posted on 08/11/2008 5:06:45 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Since my grandparents all came from Ireland, I can legally apply for and receive an Irish passport without jeopardizing my American passport.

Best thread in a while.

42 posted on 08/11/2008 5:10:12 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Replace every (or even one) ‘may’, ‘possibly’, ‘probably’ with the word ‘definitely’ - provide proof - then you have a story.


43 posted on 08/11/2008 5:18:19 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
Replace every (or even one) ‘may’, ‘possibly’, ‘probably’ with the word ‘definitely’ - provide proof - then you have a story.

No question about it - it's just a working theory at this point.

But get yourself a Wordpress account, and go over to TexasDarlin's site, and read some of her work, and the work of her correspondents [like Judah Benjamin].

According to her, it's looking pretty certain that Barack Jr travelled to Pakistan, in 1981, on an "exclusively" Indonesian passport - she seems to think that it's a done deal.

If nothing else, there is still this huge looming question in Campaign 2008: Why did the Obama campaign think that they had to dump a forged Certificate of Live Birth on the American public?

There are, of course, all sorts of possible answers:

1) David Axelrod planted a "poison pill" to try to entice someone in the GOP to go on record about it, so that the DEMs could then produce the real birth certificate at the very last moment, and humiliate the GOP, or

2) Some low-level staffer in the Obama campaign was just too lazy [or too pressed for time] to get the real birth certificate, and thought, "Gee whiz, we have Maya's certificate here, let's just doctor it up in Photoshop and Illustrator - no one will ever know the difference," or

3) There is something really weird in Barack Jr's legal history - something that Barack Jr cannot allow to see the light of day - which is the line of thought that TexasDarlin and her correspondents are pursuing.


44 posted on 08/11/2008 7:38:47 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: ncfool; PGalt; OldCorps; The Mayor; Yehuda; Ciexyz; igoramus08; TommyJoe; RaceBannon; fella; ...
Okay, this is rich: Guess who owns the website, "barrysoetoro.com"?
http://www.barrysoetoro.com
Click on it and find out.
45 posted on 08/11/2008 8:10:43 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Very interesting, but is this just some disinformation on the part of the Obama campaign? Who actually owns this site?


46 posted on 08/11/2008 8:21:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Maya was born in Jakarta. Why would she have a birth certificate from Hawaii?

Without a solid answer this 'working theory' has zero basis.

47 posted on 08/11/2008 8:23:17 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Domain name: BARRYSOETORO.COM

Administrative Contact:
Tharwat.com
Tharwat Abdul-Malik (tharwat@gmail.com)
+1.7272140240
Fax: +1.7272140240
10460 Roosevelt Blvd N
Suite 289
Saint Petersburg, FL 33716
US

Technical Contact:
Tharwat.com
Tharwat Abdul-Malik (tharwat@gmail.com)
+1.7272140240
Fax: +1.7272140240
10460 Roosevelt Blvd N
Suite 289
Saint Petersburg, FL 33716
US

Registrant Contact:
Tharwat.com
Tharwat Abdul-Malik

10460 Roosevelt Blvd N
Suite 289
Saint Petersburg, FL 33716
US


48 posted on 08/11/2008 8:27:20 AM PDT by kabar
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To: wtc911
Maya was born in Jakarta. Why would she have a birth certificate from Hawaii? Without a solid answer this 'working theory' has zero basis.

Again, see my reply at #21.

The working theory right now is that Stanley Ann Dunham [Soetoro?] COMMITTED A FELONY in applying for and receiving an Hawaiian COLB for her daughter, Maya Kassandra Soetoro.

49 posted on 08/11/2008 8:27:25 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: kabar
Wow, now there's an interesting character:
http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=Tharwat+Abdul-Malik

50 posted on 08/11/2008 8:29:28 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Doesn’t look like a McCain supporter. This is obviously propaganda meant to discredit McCain and accuse him of dirty tricks.


51 posted on 08/11/2008 8:33:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
The working theory right now is that Stanley Ann Dunham [Soetoro?] COMMITTED A FELONY in applying for and receiving an Hawaiian COLB for her daughter, Maya Kassandra Soetoro.

Let me add: There's a second, competing theory [or an embellishment of the existing theory] which holds that technically invalid Hawaiian COLBs were, in that era, a known "back door" method for foreigners to weasel their way into United States citizenship, or to begin to build the "fake" paperwork background to create a United States identity which they could later assume [Social Security Number and all].

Which is to say: Some people are wondering whether in that era there was a cottage industry which consisted of applying for and receiving these technically invalid Hawaiian COLBs, and the Hawaiian authorities were either completely oblivious to it, or were in on the action and chose to look the other way.

Either way, though, Stanley Ann Dunham very likely committed a felony if she was involved in this manner.

52 posted on 08/11/2008 8:34:46 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: kabar
Check out this page:
http://republican.meetup.com/495/members/4930941/

53 posted on 08/11/2008 8:37:18 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
I have had to obtain valid BCs for myself and my kids on a number of occasions over the years.

If the birth is not registered in the jurisdiction within a very narrow time window then there will be no official record of it.

This 'working theory' has no basis in fact.

If you must spend your time engaging in "theories", go to work on the Kenya connection to Odinga, why obama campaigned for him in late 2007 but then wouldn't meet with him in June 2008.

It's all been posted here before by many of us. It's verified and damaging.

54 posted on 08/11/2008 8:38:23 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Tharwat Abdul-Malik is a member of Hillsborough County Republican Executive Committee He joined in March 2008. A mole for Barack?
55 posted on 08/11/2008 8:39:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
"Tharwat" sounds Indonesian to my [admittedly untrained] ear, and I'm wondering if the "Abdul" in his name indicates that he might have been born a Muslim in Indonesia, but converted to Christianity at some point in his life [and became a Republican in the United States].

In that case, he might know a thing or two about the Soetoros back in the old country.

56 posted on 08/11/2008 8:39:18 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

No, he is black looking at his photo.


57 posted on 08/11/2008 8:40:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: wtc911
If the birth is not registered in the jurisdiction within a very narrow time window then there will be no official record of it.

I'm sorry - I didn't understand this sentence.

58 posted on 08/11/2008 8:40:54 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: David

Ping.


59 posted on 08/11/2008 8:45:43 AM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver....is anyone's guess....August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: LambChop_NY; reaganonomics

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

60 posted on 08/11/2008 8:46:07 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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