I actually think the second one is kind of cute.
Posted on 08/25/2008 7:26:38 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
As opposed to believing that everything in the universe came from nothing, that space and matter were results of a 'big bang', and that all of the order and beauty we observe came about as the result of an explosion. Not to mention that life spontaneously arose with the ability to consume and convert food into energy, as well as copy and follow the DNA that spontaneously generated simultaneously, and then figured out how to reproduce itself.
Faith indeed!!!
So, in order for your and you esteemed scientists theories [sic] to hold, you must assume that the speed of light has been unchanged since the origin of the universe.
Never heard of the 'horizon problem'?
Hmmm, I didn’t think that is what we were talking about. I thought we were talking about a 6000 year old universe. And about how your sources can prove it.
Ever heard of "inflation"?
How many orders of magnitude does the speed of light have to change in order for a 6000 year old universe? Because it's stayed pretty constant in the last couple hundred of years.
I actually think the second one is kind of cute.
Yeah, where the universe miraculously starts expanding faster than the speed of light and in a few nanoseconds reaches about 90% (or more) of observed size and then miraculously stops expanding faster than the speed of light. All by itself.
Sounds like instantaneous creation to me.
Ever heard of exponential functions?
Know what kind of curve they trace?
Until they rebelled, these two had lived in a world that was in the same substance as God
2 comments:
- Scripture doesn't support this assertion.
- It would be difficult to remove a rib (for the purpose of making Eve) from a non-physical Adam.
Uhhhhh yeah. Still doesn’t explain the constant speed we’ve seen in the last 3.3% of the age of the 6K year old universe. You’d expect some change given your “exponential” explanation.
Also, type 1A supernovas are pretty darn consistent, even for those at great distances where the light is just getting to us now, even though the speed of light when the supernova occurred was “exponentially” faster than it is today. It would NOT be as uniform as we’ve seen them today for objects both near and far.
But please, keep on avoiding my questions concerning “gravitational time dilation” that doesn’t actually exert any gravitational influence upon light.
Your article does not appear to refute to the idea of a “young” Mercury. If anything, it gives credence to the idea.
Somehow the previous examples have eluded me...
For no reason.
I love it. Black holes are so dense that even light cannot escape their gravitational attraction.
So here we have singularity which contains the mass of the entire universe, not even just part of it like black holes, and we are expected to believe that it all of a sudden exploded and escaped its own massive gravitational attraction?
Then for some unknown reason it let go and expanded to about the size of the known universe in a trillion- trillionth of a second faster than a speeding bullet er, the speed of light, organized itself, and set up its own consistent and orderly laws by which to operate? And continued to organize for billions of years so that the mindless matter all by itself, produced complexity in violation of the laws it set up for itself, and then went on to produce information and sentient beings?
All by random happenstance.
And they say Christians have faith when we believe that God did it?
The universe sure has good brakes.
Better than my van.
You’re assuming that the massive gravitational time dilation that occured during creation week still exists today. According to Humphreys’ White Hole (Creation) Cosmolgy, this would no longer be so. Time would have nearly stood still for earth during creation week, whereas billions of years would have gone by at the outer edges of the universe (which were much closer to earth at the time, because the universe was much smaller), giving plenty of time for starlight to reach the earth in time for day six of creation week.
For a quick overview, you might want to consult the following:
http://creationwiki.org/White_hole_cosmology
Constant? Not if you accept the actual measurements.
"Also, type 1A supernovas are pretty darn consistent, even for those at great distances where the light is just getting to us now, even though the speed of light when the supernova occurred was “exponentially” faster than it is today. It would NOT be as uniform as we’ve seen them today for objects both near and far."
Many scientists conflate 'light-year' as a measure of distance with 'light-year' as a measure of time by assuming a constant speed of light and don't explain that to the true believers. As a result, the true believers become confused and believe that something has been shown when it hasn't.
"But please, keep on avoiding my questions concerning “gravitational time dilation” that doesn’t actually exert any gravitational influence upon light."
Not my position. You're confused.
In the following article, it is suggested that black holes don't even exist, but rather they are black stars. Arguing from the point of constantly changing scientific theory would make me dizzy, and not so confident of my condemnation of others...
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn12089-do-black-holes-really-exist.html
And they say Christians have faith when we believe that God did it?
Whereas some have unshakable faith in the latest "scientific" conjecture, er, theory, that may get disproved the next day...
We can actually produce the synchrotron radiation typically used as the indication of a 'black hole' on earth. However, because astronomers only accept gravity as the ruling force in the cosmos, relativistic gravitational objects are assumed whenever synchrotron radiation is detected in outer space.
It is probably just the signature of strong electric currents in plasma.
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