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The Truth About Russia in Georgia
Middle East Journal ^ | 26 August 2008 | Michael Totten

Posted on 08/26/2008 11:00:02 AM PDT by RKV

Virtually everyone believes Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili foolishly provoked a Russian invasion on August 7, 2008, when he sent troops into the breakaway district of South Ossetia. “The warfare began Aug. 7 when Georgia launched a barrage targeting South Ossetia,” the Associated Press reported over the weekend in typical fashion.

Virtually everyone is wrong. Georgia didn't start it on August 7, nor on any other date. The South Ossetian militia started it on August 6 when its fighters fired on Georgian peacekeepers and Georgian villages with weapons banned by the agreement hammered out between the two sides in 1994. At the same time, the Russian military sent its invasion force bearing down on Georgia from the north side of the Caucasus Mountains on the Russian side of the border through the Roki tunnel and into Georgia. This happened before Saakashvili sent additional troops to South Ossetia and allegedly started the war.

(Excerpt) Read more at michaeltotten.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: aggression; georgia; invasion; kremlin; nato; neosoviet; putin; russia; russians; southossetia
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To: RKV

Great article exposing the Russkies.

BTW, have you noticed that since the Russia-Georgia conflict began, Iran has been verrryyy quiet?

There are US missiles in the Black Sea, and Nutjob knows his toy rockets are no match...


21 posted on 08/26/2008 12:39:47 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (The thing about politics is it's never so bad that it can't get worse)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Yeah, the mullahs could manage to get it from both sides.


22 posted on 08/26/2008 12:43:28 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Bump!


23 posted on 08/26/2008 12:55:10 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tennessean4Bush; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Virtually everyone believes Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili foolishly provoked a Russian invasion on August 7, 2008, when he sent troops into the breakaway district of South Ossetia... Georgia didn't start it on August 7, nor on any other date. The South Ossetian militia started it on August 6 when its fighters fired on Georgian peacekeepers and Georgian villages with weapons banned by the agreement hammered out between the two sides in 1994. At the same time, the Russian military sent its invasion force bearing down on Georgia from the north side of the Caucasus Mountains on the Russian side of the border through the Roki tunnel and into Georgia. This happened before Saakashvili sent additional troops to South Ossetia and allegedly started the war.

24 posted on 08/26/2008 1:03:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: RKV

I read the article...seems very well explained in english to me. It was very informative, and I want to say again how much I appreciate your posting it here.


25 posted on 08/26/2008 1:56:21 PM PDT by rlmorel (If they can call George "Dubya", we can call Barack "Hussein")
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To: rlmorel

Yer welcome. Totten is a champ. Him and Yon are the go-to guys to keep up with world affairs.


26 posted on 08/26/2008 2:09:55 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV
Where did the Ossetians get 120mm guns?
Soviet/Russian tanks use a 125mm gun. Their closes artillery piece is the 122mm. (In NATO, we use 105 and 120mm for tanks, and 105 and 155mm for artillery.)
27 posted on 08/26/2008 3:25:24 PM PDT by rmlew (NYARLATHOTEP / BIDEN'08 . If you don't believe me check out the first's wikipedia page.)
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To: rmlew

Can’t say for sure, but theft is one logical option.


28 posted on 08/26/2008 3:26:59 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Cold Heat

Not only the Russians.

Remember that Hitler and Stalin agreed to divide Poland, and Stalin would grab other countries.

Hitler had dead German prisoners dressed up in Polish uniforms, accused Poland of attack Germany, and therefore Hitler was “forced to respond by counter-attacking”.

Russians still acting like Hitler!


29 posted on 08/26/2008 4:00:01 PM PDT by Vineyard
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To: RKV

Bush should call for Chechen independence also.


30 posted on 08/26/2008 4:01:58 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: RKV; Lasha; Sal; dixiechick2000; cricket; Recovering Ex-hippie; 1rudeboy

This is wonderful, thanks for posting it!!


31 posted on 08/26/2008 4:43:34 PM PDT by MarMema ("..this isn't about the U.S. and Russia, It's about everyone and Russia.")
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To: RKV

Good Article.

A lot of this information made its way in bits and pieces into western media but its nice to have it all compiled in one piece.


32 posted on 08/26/2008 5:15:11 PM PDT by Tramonto (Regime change in Russia)
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To: RKV

Yes...I am a big fan of Michael Yon...I don’t always agree 100% with his outlook on some things, but on the other hand, I won’t argue with him because HE IS THERE!


33 posted on 08/26/2008 6:31:51 PM PDT by rlmorel (If they can call George "Dubya", we can call Barack "Hussein")
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To: RKV
Vladimir Putin has long deplored the breakup of the Soviet Union, describing it as the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe" of the 20th century.


34 posted on 08/26/2008 6:32:42 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

The Slavophiles seem to mostly post at night (US time zones). So they’re actually posting from Russia or Serbia OR they’re really vampires. The latter seems highly likely.


35 posted on 08/26/2008 6:57:03 PM PDT by LenS
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To: RKV
So little has changed. Same ol’ Soviets...I mean, Russians. Where are all of the pro Putin apologists who used to post here telling us how great Putin is, such a good Christian, such a good market economist, etc.? What they were really saying is, “what a good KGB leader comrade Putin is”
36 posted on 08/26/2008 7:59:42 PM PDT by GBA
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To: MarMema; RKV

Great article, with some very pretty pictures!

Thank you for the ping and the post!


37 posted on 08/26/2008 8:22:12 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud supporter of GEORGIA)
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To: RKV

mark for later


38 posted on 08/26/2008 8:27:42 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: LenS
The Slavophiles seem to mostly post at night...

Would the 'Slavophiles' include the pro Polish and Pro Ukraine posters?

39 posted on 08/26/2008 8:42:42 PM PDT by Tramonto (Regime change in Russia)
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To: RKV
The Ossetians are claiming that the Georgians killed 2,000 people in Tskhinvali, but when Human Rights Watch got in there a few days ago and talked to the hospital director, he had received 44 bodies. There was nobody left in that town. Plus it's the oldest law of warfare: have your guns in populated areas, and when the enemy responds, show the world your dead women and children.

“Right,” I said. “That goes on a lot where I usually work, in the Middle East.”

A fitting end to a very revealing article. Thanks for posting it.

40 posted on 08/26/2008 10:09:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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