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Military help for Georgia is a 'declaration of war', says Moscow
thisislondon.co.uk ^ | Wednesday 27.08.08

Posted on 08/27/2008 12:53:44 PM PDT by lizol

Military help for Georgia is a 'declaration of war', says Moscow in extraordinary warning to the West

Last updated at 16:47pm on 27.08.08

Moscow has issued an extraordinary warning to the West that military assistance to Georgia for use against South Ossetia or Abkhazia would be viewed as a "declaration of war" by Russia.

The extreme rhetoric from the Kremlin's envoy to NATO came as President Dmitry Medvedev stressed he will make a military response to US missile defence installations in eastern Europe, sending new shudders across countries whose people were once blighted by the Iron Curtain.

And Moscow also emphasised it was closely monitoring what it claims is a build-up of NATO firepower in the Black Sea.

The incendiary warning on Western military involvement in Georgia - where NATO nations have long played a role in training and equipping the small state - came in an interview with Dmitry Rogozin, a former nationalist politician who is now ambassador to the North Atlantic Alliance.

"If NATO suddenly takes military actions against Abkhazia and South Ossetia, acting solely in support of Tbilisi, this will mean a declaration of war on Russia," he stated.

Yesterday likened the current world crisis to the fevered atmosphere before the start of the First World War.

Rogozin said he did not believe the crisis would descend to war between the West and Russia.

But his use of such intemperate language will be seen as dowsing a fire with petrol.

Top military figure Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, president of the Academy of Geopolitical Studies in Moscow, alleged that the US and NATO had been arming Georgia as a dress rehearsal for a future military operation in Iran.

"We are close to a serious conflict - U.S. and NATO preparations on a strategic scale are ongoing. In the operation the West conducted on Georgian soil against Russia - South Ossetians were the victims or hostages of it - we can see a rehearsal for an attack on Iran."

He claimed Washington was fine tuning a new type of warfare and that the threat of an attack on Iran was growing by the day bringing "chaos and instability" in its wake.

With the real architect of the worsening Georgian conflict - prime minister Vladimir Putin - remaining in the background, Medvedev followed up on Rogozin's broadside with a threat to use the Russian military machine to respond to the deployment of the American anti-missile defence system in Poland and the Czech republic.

Poland agreed this month to place ten interceptor missiles on its territory, and Moscow has already hinted it would become a nuclear target for Russia in the event of conflict.

"These missiles are close to our borders and constitute a threat to us," Medvedev told Al-Jazeera television. "This will create additional tension and we will have to respond to it in some way, naturally using military means."

The Russian president said that offering NATO membership to Georgia and Ukraine, two former Soviet republics, would only aggravate the situation.

Moscow has consistently expressed its opposition to the U.S. missile shield, saying it threatens its national security.

The U.S. claims the shield is designed to thwart missile attacks by what it calls "rogue states," including Iran.

Meanwhile, Russia - seen by the West as flouting international law - today demanded NATO abide by an obscure agreement signed before the Second World War limiting its warships in the Black Sea.

"In light of the build-up of NATO naval forces in the Black Sea, our fleet has also taken on the task of monitoring their activities," said hawkish deputy head of Russia's general staff, Anatoly Nogovitsyn.

The Montreux Convention, as it is called, sets a weight restriction of 45,000 tonnes on the number of warships that countries outside the Black Sea region can deploy in the basin.

"Can NATO indefinitely build up its forces and means there? It turns out it cannot," said Nogovitsyn.

NATO has said it is undertaking pre-arranged exercises in the Black Sea involving US, German, Spanish and Polish ships. Two other US warships sailed to Georgian waters with humanitarian aid.

Georgia is poised to sever diplomatic relations with Russia, or reduce them to a bare minimum.

"We will drastically cut our diplomatic ties with Russia," said a top official.

President Mikhail Saakashvili said he was frightened to leave Georgia to attend the EU summit on the crisis.

"If I leave Georgia, the Russians will close our airspace and prevent me from returning home," he said.

Russia sought Chinese backing for its action - but the Communist regime in Beijing appeared reluctant to offer support, instead issuing a statement saying it was "concerned" about recent developments.

NATO called for Russia to reverse its decision on recognition for the two enclaves, both Georgian under international law.

But the new 'president' of South Ossetia, Eduard Kokoyty, called for Russian military bases on his territory.

French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner warned today that an marauding Russian bear could trample over other ex-Soviet states.

"That is very dangerous," he said, pointing at Ukraine and Moldova.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: abkhazia; blacksea; geopolitics; georgia; putin; rogozin; russia; southossetia; war
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1 posted on 08/27/2008 12:56:02 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

OK, Obama, what’s your answer to this? Hint - stamping your feet and holding your breath is not an option.


2 posted on 08/27/2008 12:58:43 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Fred Nerks

Ping.


3 posted on 08/27/2008 12:58:46 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: lizol
With Senator John McCain (Captain, U.S. Navy-Retired) about to be elected president in a landslide, they might want to rethink their bellicosity.
4 posted on 08/27/2008 12:58:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: lizol

A war with Russia does not sound out of the realm of possibility. We better to take out China’s military as well.


5 posted on 08/27/2008 1:01:47 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: lizol
really? REALLY? OH REALLY?
6 posted on 08/27/2008 1:02:16 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: lizol

FU Russia


7 posted on 08/27/2008 1:02:32 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: lizol

Boy, this is really getting out of hand quickly! Reminds me of a scene from Anchorman, only very serious, and because of that, not funny at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSnu6NqFWV4


8 posted on 08/27/2008 1:02:42 PM PDT by villagerjoel ("Tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." CS Lewis)
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To: lizol

Looks like the Russian testing continues to see if there is any meaningful response from NATO or the US. There are reports that the Russians are setting up artillery positions within 20 miles of Tbilisi. It would be easy to stage or allege a provocation to justify a Russian assault on the rest of Georgia they do not now control.


9 posted on 08/27/2008 1:04:31 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: voteNRA; valkyry1; Monkey Face; MajorChaos; rrstar96; Lorianne; ZULU; bayouranger; Grimmy; ...
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10 posted on 08/27/2008 1:06:17 PM PDT by lizol
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To: ladtx
OK, Obama, what’s your answer to this? .

His answer is "Believe in Obama" and His disciples are satisfied by that.

11 posted on 08/27/2008 1:08:13 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: All

Bring it on..


12 posted on 08/27/2008 1:08:25 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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To: lizol

We are about to be hip deep in alligators and our news media is playing toga party. I don’t see claiming that this is above his pay grade will work for Obama either. Does anyone see where this is headed?


13 posted on 08/27/2008 1:08:49 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: lizol


Git some.

14 posted on 08/27/2008 1:11:11 PM PDT by Petronski (Velveeta:Cheese::DNC08:Success)
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To: ladtx
I believe I speak for everyone here, when I say in these dangerous and uncertain times, we need a steady hand like Barack Obama's.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

15 posted on 08/27/2008 1:11:42 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: lizol

“”If NATO suddenly takes military actions against Abkhazia and South Ossetia, acting solely in support of Tbilisi, this will mean a declaration of war on Russia,” he stated.”

mmmkay, Sparky...


16 posted on 08/27/2008 1:12:47 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: lizol

Ok, for everyone here that braves checking out left wing sites, how many lunatics think that Putin and Bush cut a deal in Beijing to help McCain win?


17 posted on 08/27/2008 1:12:51 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: lizol

Russia is trying to start a war, that is certain.


18 posted on 08/27/2008 1:12:59 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: lizol

Bring - It - On.

The Russian Army has big guns and big trucks. It has the most undisciplined troops of any major force, and they are just no match for the might of the United States military. Call it sabre-rattling, it’s just fact.

Colonel, USAFR


19 posted on 08/27/2008 1:13:02 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Steamburg; tx_eggman
We are about to be hip deep in alligators

It's ok... my Cajun' buddies tell me "dem gator's sum rat fine eats."
20 posted on 08/27/2008 1:14:22 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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