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Yes, it is. Hardly anything is worth the paper it’s written on anymore.
The most socially irresponsible class in America is the group known as “College Presidents.”
When I was a young Freshman at a fine private college in 1966, my tuition was $990 a year. I could make that in one summer of hard work as a (non-union) construction laborer.
Today the same school charges $29,000 and has already seved notice they will break $30,000 next year. Sick, sick, sick.
It’s only for rich kids now. Or welfare students.
Makes me wonder if the author has a college degree. I think probably not.
And oh so true.
Trade schools are a great idea.
First year or two of college is teaching kids what kids in other countries already know BEFORE they enter college.
One of my granddaughters graduated Cum Laud from an expensive private Lutheran University during Memorial Day weekend.
No Anthem was sung, no pledge of allegiance. Not a word was mentioned in memory of those who gave life or limb to keep the country free. And no prayer was said for the graduating class.
But! The keynote speaker was an alumni who is in the State Department in Washington, D.C.. Her speech covered the glories of working for the government, and she cordially solicited the class to apply to the State Department.
My granddaughter didn’t learn anything of value there. She says her mother and dad are givers, and she is a taker; and she calls those of us who see through Barack Obama racists!
I would say whatever education she may have had prior to her freshman year was more than undone at this “Chriatian” University.
I certainly hope she is the exception rather than the rule!
Not exactly a great fit to this ping list but an interesting read.
“Oscar Wilde once described a cynic as a man who knew the price of everything and the value of nothing”
I’d just like to point out that this sentiment is economically nonsensical. Prices are a rationing function, and while they must take into consideration people’s valuation as expressed by demand, there is no such thing as abstract “value.”
To say nothing of Alfred Kinsey.
I've worked for the most stupid people in the world whose only claim to their success is that they had college degrees. I knew the job forwards, backwards, sideways and inside out but had no degree.
Once I got to the corporate office it was horrendous. I worked with hard working, dedicated people and we in turn worked for morons who only got their positions because they were college grads. Get yourself a masters? You're now a manager..............automatic!
Technical degrees are another thing but in my line of field, (HR) anybody can do the job once you learn the corporation's HR policies..........
I always post this in threads about college tuition because it is possible to do it tuition free.
High school years spent doing Dual Credit...graduate High School and get an AA at the same time...in our state, this option is tuition free at any State College or University.
Our state also has a merit scholarship for a State University of your choice, requirements are SAT/ACT score, grade point, etc. So that way you have your Bachelor’s tuition free.
Our son is now in grad school and has a Graduate Assistantship (this time it’s a private school GA granted according to GMAT score.) GA position requires 20 hours work per week for a prof, and in turn the college grants full time grad tuition (9 hours per term) and a small stipend.
If you live in an area where there are colleges in proximity to your home, the student can commute and that eliminates housing/board, so the main expense for a Bachelor’s and Master’s has been the cost of books (between 500-700 per term.)
Prelutsky and Professor Williams are asking the wrong question. They should be asking, “Is High School worth it?”
Prof. Walter Williams: Is College Worth It ?
Townhall ^ | August 27,2008 | Walter Williams
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2069487/posts
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:20:40 PM by SeekAndFind
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Here’s a thread I started a couple of years ago.
High School Equivalency Exam
World Wide Web Links | 1/6/05 | Kevin O’Malley
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts
Posted on 01/06/2005 7:58:45 PM PST by Kevin OMalley
I agree except that high schools would need to do much more to help students decide which vocation they want to go into. Most people I know changed majors after going to college because they really didn’t know what they ultimately wanted to do. This would not be all that difficult, but it would need to be addressed.
Otherwise, it’s about what I’ve been saying.
susie
A lot of good points here, but some caveats. College is basically an expensive weeding out process for professional schools (doctors, lawyers, etc.) as it is. Your application is generally half your standardized test score and half your college gpa.
In Britain they filter out kids early by ability and put them on different career paths.
In Germany there are a ton of trade schools as well and they filter out kids really early.
America really needs less people with “women’s-studies” degrees and the like.
There is nothing I learned in business college that I couldn’t have learned sitting at a computer. Every young person needs to get up in front of people and talk, though. And the text book scam is criminal!
“Aside from learning how to drink themselves into a stupor and smooth-talk members of the opposite sex, those first four years have no other purpose than to drain off thousands of dollars from mom and dad in order to pay exorbitant salaries to administrators, professors, and a gaggle of athletic coaches.”
I agree. I want a nation of young workers who have never studied any economic theory or finance, or any history beyond the high-school stuff, and never had any logic classes or even got a glancing familiarity with any of the classics of Western civilization like the philosophy of the Ancient Greeks. And a trade school system will not have hard-drinking late-adolescents looking to get laid, or professors and administrators, and won’t drain off thousands of mom and dad’s dollars sleeping late and skipping classes. The students will be serious and get the job done, because they will finally generally realize that they have to work for a living and get a job after college. They don’t do that now.
With an education like this, our tough American workers can compete with any 21-century educated worker in the world. The fundamental approach to life that we had in 1858 was good enough for our great-great-great-grandparents. It should be good enough for us.
Seriously I see a boom in demand for farriers, since driving is so frickin’ expensive.