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Norfolk-based Navy ship runs aground in Black Sea port
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | 24 Oct 08 | Matthew Jones

Posted on 10/24/2008 12:28:53 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY

The destroyer Barry ran aground Thursday as it was preparing to dock at a port in the Black Sea, the Navy confirmed Friday.

The incident happened at about 10:30 a.m. local time, as the Norfolk-based ship was entering the Turkish port of Samsun.

The ship ran aground in silt as it was maneuvering in the port’s turning basin, about 200 yards from the pier. A harbor pilot was on board at the time, a Navy official said.

Tugs were able to free the ship with assistance from Turkish coast guard divers, and the vessel is currently moored at a Samsun pier.

Commercial divers conducted an initial assessment of the destroyer Friday and found no damage. A U.S. diving team is expected to do a follow-up inspection today.

Depending on the results, the ship will continue on its mission. The Navy also plans to investigate how the grounding happened.

The Barry left Norfolk in August to join a standing naval maritime group overseas and provide regional security. More recently, it has been operating on its own in the Black Sea, including a stop in the Georgian port town of Poti.

Thursday’s incident happened during a scheduled port visit.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: grounding; navy; norfolk; poti; usn; ussbarry
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
A harbor pilot was on board at the time
21 posted on 10/24/2008 12:55:59 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: GATOR NAVY

Navigation by Braille is rarely career-enhancing.


22 posted on 10/24/2008 1:01:08 PM PDT by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Thanks for the lesson.


23 posted on 10/24/2008 1:01:15 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (My 401K is in precious metals. Lead, Brass and Blued Steel.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
USS Barry


24 posted on 10/24/2008 1:05:38 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: AndyJackson
Silt in a poorly maintained, marked and charted harbor, without accurate information in a coastal/harbor/pilot guide? Silt happens.

lol - yes it does. Didn't know about the pilot.

25 posted on 10/24/2008 1:05:48 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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To: ladtx
Wrong Barry. DD-933 was decommissioned in 1969.

DDG-52, USS Barry

26 posted on 10/24/2008 1:14:01 PM PDT by pabianice (Inexplicable and infuriating.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Well, I guess the Navy will be promoting a commander to captain early this year.


27 posted on 10/24/2008 1:14:48 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Inasmusch as it is a tin can, the Captain could have a problem.


28 posted on 10/24/2008 1:16:12 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
So much for that career.

One story I heard about but never knew if it was true was that some CO got his ship stuck on a reef and waited a day or two hoping the tide would lift him off. During that time apparently there was little or no communications with higher authority. Needless to say the tide didn't come but a replacement CO did. Of course, that depends if the story is true.

29 posted on 10/24/2008 1:16:57 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: GATOR NAVY
The destroyer Barry ran aground Thursday...

Let's hope that the same thing happens to the true destroyer "Barry", who's socialist ideals threaten to destroy what was once the greatest, most prosperous nation on earth.

30 posted on 10/24/2008 1:17:59 PM PDT by meyer (We are all Joe the Plumber)
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To: CholeraJoe

Certainly the fact that a pilot was onboard will be considered in the investigation, it just won’t absolve the CO of his responsibility.

I’ve seen some pilots in some ports that scared the hell out of me. There are still many places in the world where it’s obvious that nepotism and/or bribery will still get one far.


31 posted on 10/24/2008 1:23:13 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (guess I'm just a spudboy)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Hmmm...

“Barry”....the “Destroyer”.....ran aground???

In a Black Sea port???


32 posted on 10/24/2008 1:26:58 PM PDT by G Larry (BarackÂ’s character has been molded by extremists)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I doubt they would relieve the captain?

Shouldn’t be much if any damage done from running aground on silt (soft mud). And although the captain is ultimately responsible, it would seem reasonable enough to let the pilot do his work.

The only alternative would probably be to spend extra hours sending people out to sound the bottom before maneuvering in. And showing that you don’t trust the local pilot isn’t a good way to make friends on a port visit.

As long as they were keeping it reasonably slow, I should think the captain would be exonerated, although you can’t always second guess what the chain of command will come up with.


33 posted on 10/24/2008 1:27:02 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AmericaUnited

???


34 posted on 10/24/2008 1:31:10 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

No, he was not at the helm, nor was any Navy officer. The helmsman was following the orders of the harbor pilot at the time.


35 posted on 10/24/2008 1:32:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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To: All
Didn't the Missouri or some carrier run aground in San Francisco Bay back in the 1980's? I recall the Captain was exonerated because the channel was charted and certified safe by the Navy for navigation by a ship with the noted draft. I would hope the same thing happens here, but the Navy being what it is, it'll all depend on the politics of the courts martial whether or not the skipper of the Barry gets promoted to permanent shore duty.
36 posted on 10/24/2008 1:32:38 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Buraq HUSSEIN Obama. If the libs don't like his name then why support him?)
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To: Cicero

You make some good points and I should also add that there are many otherwise competent pilots who are just plain unfamiliar with the handling characteristics of high powered warships. It’s a different ball game than a low speed diesel single screw bulk carrier.


37 posted on 10/24/2008 1:36:31 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (guess I'm just a spudboy)
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To: GATOR NAVY
Barry... the destroyer... BLACK sea...


38 posted on 10/24/2008 1:40:30 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Illic Est Haud Deus)
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To: PeterFinn

It was USS Enterprise, coming home after an 8 month deployment with all the families waiting on the pier.

IIRC in that case it was determined that heavier than normal rains the previous winter had contributed to abnormal silting in the channel.


39 posted on 10/24/2008 1:43:03 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (guess I'm just a spudboy)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
ruh rohhhh - there goes another captains career.

Not likely. But the Pilot {required} likely has a lot of explaining to do. BTW I think Chester Nimitz grounded a ship about mid career. Not always an unforgivable act but depends a lot on the circumstances.

40 posted on 10/24/2008 1:43:13 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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