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Report hike in gun and ammunition sales
United Press International ^ | October 27, 2008

Posted on 10/27/2008 10:33:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Experts say U.S. economic conditions and the presidential election are partly responsible for an increase in the sale of guns and ammunition this year.

Data supplied by federal and state government show sales of firearms up 8 to 10 percent in 2008, continuing a trend that began in 2006, The Washington Post reported Monday.

The newspaper said interviews with dozens of gun dealers and buyers in Virginia and Maryland indicate the hike in sales appears to be driven predominantly by concerns about the election and the economy.

"Generally, we know that hard economic times always result in firearm sales," James Purtillo of Silver Spring, Md., publisher of Tripwire Newsletter, told the Post.

Gun shop owner Steve Clark of Warrenton, Va., says his customers have been buying weapons they fear will be restricted or heavily taxed.

"What I hear a lot is fear that Barack (Obama) will win the election and tax everything to the point that you can't afford anything," Eugene Proko, 51, a salesman at Clark's shop, told the Post.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2ndamendment; antichrist; banglist; congress; economy; election; elections; molonlabe; obama
Valid fears, I'm afraid.
1 posted on 10/27/2008 10:33:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2 posted on 10/27/2008 10:36:59 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because the people know things that the MSM can’t or won’t report.


3 posted on 10/27/2008 10:42:43 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Soon coming back to your Congress

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980CE3DC1F3CF937A35752C1A965958260

Moynihan Asks Big Tax Increase On Ammunition

By ADAM CLYMER
Published: November 4, 1993
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan said today that he would insist that President Clinton’s health-care plan include a huge increase in Federal taxes on handgun ammunition that would make some especially destructive bullets unaffordable.
The New York Democrat has often contended that the best way to attack gun violence would be to restrict the sale of ammunition, not guns. Today, for instance, he noted that the nation has a 200-year supply of guns but only a 4-year supply of ammunition.
“Guns don’t kill people; bullets do,” he told the Senate as he introduced his legislation today. “It is time the Federal Government began taxing handgun ammunition used in crime out of existence.”

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4 posted on 10/27/2008 10:44:10 PM PDT by Peelod (McCain/Palin ~~~ 100% lawyer-free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been part of that.


5 posted on 10/27/2008 10:44:18 PM PDT by MarkeyD (THE DEMOCRATS LIED, THE ECONOMY DIED.)
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To: MarkeyD

What do you mean you have been part of that?


6 posted on 10/27/2008 10:49:24 PM PDT by Hanna548
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To: Hanna548

I’ve been buying ammo in order stock up.


7 posted on 10/27/2008 10:52:28 PM PDT by MarkeyD (THE DEMOCRATS LIED, THE ECONOMY DIED.)
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To: MarkeyD

Oh, ok, good plan that:)


8 posted on 10/27/2008 11:02:17 PM PDT by Hanna548
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Joe Biden proudly admits he authored the gun ban and calls “This my baby” questioner mentally unqualified to own a gun....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vq06CHHTrk

Obama Favors Gun Bans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhL8aeIsTEo


9 posted on 10/27/2008 11:06:23 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm afraid the article, truthful to an extent, “tactfully” omitted one reason that, I'm certain, had occurred to most of these purchasers. That reason would be the “almost” promised, by the media at least, violence if Obama doesn't win.
10 posted on 10/27/2008 11:12:47 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Peelod

People kill people you moron.

Why must Liberals be so stupid?


11 posted on 10/27/2008 11:31:33 PM PDT by wastedyears (Quiet by nature, standing tall)
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To: All

People are not falling for Obama’s act. They know he is a POS gun grabber.


12 posted on 10/27/2008 11:42:21 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t do it!

Its not my fault!

(Unfortunately)


13 posted on 10/27/2008 11:56:21 PM PDT by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: singfreedom

Exactly.....violence, taxes, and gunbans. I’m going to my first gun show this weekend and hope to get something and some ammo. Any advice?


14 posted on 10/28/2008 12:18:40 AM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (God Bless Sarah Palin and her Family.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

My two cents: Remington 870 12 ga. Inexpensive, very reliable, excellent abd versatile defensive weapon


15 posted on 10/28/2008 2:16:04 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People are buying all over the country.


16 posted on 10/28/2008 2:39:12 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Jack Hammer; proudtobeanamerican1

I agree that is a good weapon. I have one. I did hear that remmington has raised prices a lot recently though, but you should still get one. You also may want to look at an AKor another inexpensive semi-auto. Make sure you buy at least 1,000 rounds.


17 posted on 10/28/2008 2:39:40 AM PDT by John Robie
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

If you get the shotgun get number 4 buckshot. It covers more ground, but still hits. If things get really crazy though you will want a semi-auto rifle. That shotgun will have you sore after a while. Make sure you get hollow point, and be careful if you live in a real crowded area, because you could hit a lot of your neighbors. Get both if you have the money. If you are in a real crowded area though get that shotgun if you can only afford one, because it will be safer for you neighbors.


18 posted on 10/28/2008 2:44:37 AM PDT by John Robie
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To: singfreedom

There could be riots if he wins.


19 posted on 10/28/2008 2:46:02 AM PDT by John Robie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well you know what they say, if you can’t buy things with gold, buy things with lead.

Prayers up that we never get there!


20 posted on 10/28/2008 2:47:38 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: PureSolace

I live in a nice area, but there is a bad neighborhood a few blocks away. I think my neighborhood could be where they come if it gets bad. I pray nothing happens, but I am pretty concerned. I am stocking up on supplies because I am not leaving my house for a week if he loses, but it will be worth it for the country.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 2:51:04 AM PDT by John Robie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've opened my armory- I used to be a class III dealer-- and laid out ammo, haversacks, and an assortment of shotguns, subguns, BAR's, and a couple of belt-fed HMG's.

The only thing we lack is a squad of men to man them...

But we're as ready as we're going to be.

No, I'm not kidding.

22 posted on 10/28/2008 3:47:21 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Cold Warrior- draggin' his BAR into the Sunset of America...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(Experts say U.S. economic conditions and the presidential election are partly responsible for an increase in the sale of guns and ammunition this year)

Yes. Actual Americans getting ready to defend their County and their families from the Socialist/Terrorist assaults coming...


23 posted on 10/28/2008 3:56:32 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dick’s Sporting Goods is have a sale this week.


24 posted on 10/28/2008 3:58:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Buy ammunition NOW.
The feds can not come and take ALL our guns away. They can make purchasing ammunition illegal.


25 posted on 10/28/2008 4:01:48 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Prole

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/u/uraniumyellowcake.htm


26 posted on 10/28/2008 5:37:12 AM PDT by danamco
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Got Ammo? New tagline...


27 posted on 10/28/2008 5:44:20 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
*** Any advice? ***

#15 had a good one, the Remington 870. If I may add, a Mossberg 500 can also be had cheap (relatively), +/-$320.00 in IL where I am. Price is for the 'Home/Personal Defense Models'.

One thing, if you've never fired a 12ga shotgun, it may be a bit much for you recoil wise. So a 20ga may be better and it will still 'take care of business'.

Also, since you're going to a gun show, look for Maverick Arms. They are Mossberg Shotguns but a lot cheaper. Approx $250.00 and every accy for a Mossberg fits a Maverick shotgun.

Maverick shotguns are like Lennox Furnaces & AC Units. Lennox is a Carrier but with a different name plate and a lot cheaper. OOPS! Did I just give away an industry secret??? :-)

(its really not so *secret*, there's other HVAC 'brand names' that do the same).

28 posted on 10/28/2008 6:49:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is the body count!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'Report hike in gun and ammunition sales'

That's a fact as to guns.

To see this yourself, just go to Davidson's Gallery of Guns and use their "Gun Genie" to see how many different firearms have "Zero Available". Especially in Personal/Home Defense model Shotguns.

There wan an H&R model (yep, H&R) I was looking at three weeks ago, now all are gone. And Remington 870's and Mossberg 500's are going fast.

29 posted on 10/28/2008 7:00:02 AM PDT by Condor51 (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is the body count!)
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To: Peelod

It’s very telling that the article describes an increase in the tax rate of ammunition from 7% to 37% as “modest”.


30 posted on 10/28/2008 8:20:39 AM PDT by rosenfan
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To: Jack Hammer; proudtobeanamerican1
That was going to be my suggestion—or a Mossberg, they're even cheaper but a good weapon. If you are a small frame person, you might even try a 20 gage. If you are a small lady, like me, you might even try a “Junior” or “Youth” model.

Buy a case of “ought”, or “double ought”, buck shells and go directly to a gun range. It's gonna be loud so prepare yourself, but you can do this. With a shotgun “aim” is not quite as important as with a handgun. You just need to “point” it in the right direction for maximum impact. (The shells I recommended have either eight or fourteen pellets in them, so they hit an “area”, approx. a foot in diameter, rather than a “spot” like a handgun or rifle.)

Jack, my favorite personal shotgun is a 870 Wingmaster Junior 20 gage. I love it. My sweet hubby got it for me for Christmas 2 years ago.

31 posted on 10/28/2008 8:22:39 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Jack Hammer
My two cents: Remington 870 12 ga. Inexpensive, very reliable, excellent abd versatile defensive weapon

Got one yesterday.

32 posted on 10/28/2008 8:24:21 AM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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To: backhoe

Bless you, backhoe, we’re doing the same thing here. Praying it is a futile exercise, but preparing just the same.


33 posted on 10/28/2008 8:26:28 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: backhoe

A question, please? Do they make an extra capacity “magazine” for my Remington 870 Youth model? It’s a 20 gage.


34 posted on 10/28/2008 8:38:22 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Peelod
By ADAM CLYMER

Adam Clymer?

Isn't he a "major league @$$hole"?

35 posted on 10/28/2008 8:40:02 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Peelod
Adam Clymer...hmmm....Clymer...Clymer...where do I know that name from? :)
36 posted on 10/28/2008 9:07:04 AM PDT by gundog (I'm a bitter gun owner, and I vote.)
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To: singfreedom
A question, please? Do they make an extra capacity “magazine” for my Remington 870 Youth model? It’s a 20 gage.

I'm not current on the newest stuff- I seem to recall that some aftermarket manufacturers offered magazine extensions for some shotguns- and the 870 has been around a while, if such things are still being made, it's likely to be available for it.

Ask your local dealer about it.

37 posted on 10/28/2008 11:05:33 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Centurion2000
Because the people know things that the MSM can’t or won’t report.

And because some people remember history ...

38 posted on 10/28/2008 11:09:46 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson and Voting for Sarah)
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To: backhoe

Thanks, backhoe! Hubby and I are making another ammo run this afternoon and I thought I’d try to find one! Thanks again!


39 posted on 10/28/2008 12:13:02 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: singfreedom

Best wishes to you both- couple of things occurred to me on further thinking—

Some tacticians advise not being too concerned about the magazine capacity, they’ll tell you to practice reloading at every opportunity- keeping it “topped up.”

The old Army issue shotgun shell carrier is pretty good— it’s flattish pouch that holds 12 shells in loops, and clips over a belt. It’s rather small.

Another I like is the old M-60 machinegun belt carrier pouch- it has a strap to throw over your shoulder, and you can stuff a box of shotgun shells inside, or dump them loose and fish them out. Not elegant, but keeps reloads handy.


40 posted on 10/28/2008 12:25:02 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: saminfl; John Robie; singfreedom

I love my 870 loaded with 00. Kicks like the Dickens, but it sure takes care of business.


41 posted on 10/28/2008 1:02:47 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Jack Hammer

My dealer recommended #4. I hope to try it out this weekend.


42 posted on 10/28/2008 1:16:14 PM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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To: saminfl; Jack Hammer

It is a great weapon. You cant beat it for self defense, especially in a crowded area.

The 00 buckshot hits the hardest, but 4 is more than adequate for self defense. I like it because there is less recoil and more pellets. You cant go wrong with either. Anything coming out of that weapon will probably do the job, but 4 is the lightest I would use.


43 posted on 10/28/2008 1:29:35 PM PDT by John Robie
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To: John Robie

That is 4 buckshot.


44 posted on 10/28/2008 1:32:40 PM PDT by John Robie
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To: backhoe

Thanks for the info. I’ll be out looking for either tomorrow. More info is always a good thing! Thanks again!


45 posted on 10/28/2008 8:34:05 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: singfreedom; Jack Hammer

Thank You all! Funny you mentioned the youth model singfreedom. There is a youth for 110 bucks at Dicks this week. (Is that a good price double barrell Rossi 90 bucks after rebate) I have two boys........


46 posted on 10/28/2008 8:38:30 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (God Bless Sarah Palin and her Family.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
What was the gage? Twenty gage, twelve gage, sixteen gage or a .410? How old are your boys and how big are they?

The only problem with a double barrel is you only have 2 shots before you have to reload. A “pump” shotgun that holds 3 or 4 rounds would be much better. If you wanted to use the double barrel as a second weapon that would be O.K., but it would be better if you had more chances to hit something before you had to reload.

Look for a Mossberg 20 gage. I think you can even find Mossberg at some Walmarts! It'll probably be around $250, but it will give you more stopping power for your money. If your boys are old enough and responsible enough, it might not be a bad thing for them to learn to use it too.

47 posted on 10/28/2008 9:55:37 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Jack Hammer
Mine is just a 20 Youth model, but for me it is absolutely the perfect shotgun-—and it's pretty too! LOL!
48 posted on 10/28/2008 9:58:41 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: John Robie
That is 4 buckshot.

That's what I got.

49 posted on 10/29/2008 7:28:56 AM PDT by saminfl (conservative since 1964)
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