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ZOGBY: O-49.1%, M-44.1%, U-6.8%
Zogby ^ | 11/1/08 | Zogby

Posted on 10/31/2008 10:02:53 PM PDT by tatown

Obama-49.1%, McCain-44.1%, Undecided-6.8%

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; mccain; obama; poll; zogby
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To: tatown
This is all voodoo until tomorrow. Then the pollsters all scramble to disavow their sponsors and move toward a somewhat accurate number by Monday. The Star Tribune poll is famous for this. They trumpet double digit leads for the RAT candidate for months and months then present something like a 6% RAT lead AS THEIR LEAD STORY on the Sunday before the election which always turns out to be a 2.5% to 3% win for the RAT on game day.

Republican voter suppression? Check. Bogus credibility at the last minute? Check. It's beyond predictable.

41 posted on 11/01/2008 1:22:07 AM PDT by MNSlim
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To: tatown

Can you believe that Demorat is suing Elizabeth Dole. That’s what democrats do to win. I know what the ad says; however, I know more that democrats sue to make it look like they are honest.

Don’t let this happen. They are just trying to take another seat away.

Oh, that’s what every agenda group does too. Sue, sue and sue. Just to make it look like they are right when if the truth be told they are anything but right or truthful.


42 posted on 11/01/2008 2:36:48 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: gandalftb

I guess Hannity fell for the “hoax” too then because he mentioned it on the show tonight.

Give it up.


43 posted on 11/01/2008 4:16:57 AM PDT by redk
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To: tatown
The undecideds are McCain voters who refuse to say it.

I heard Democrat Pat Caddell, former pollster for Jimmy Carter, say yesterday on Sean Hannity's show how unhappy and disturbed he was with the media and the Obama campaign. He talked at great length how this Democrat candidate is not a candidate even close to past Democrat candidates. At the end of the conversation (also joined by Ann Coulter) Caddell refused to say who he was voting for although the answer was pretty obvious to infer.

There is one of your 6.8% undecideds.

44 posted on 11/01/2008 4:17:20 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: goldstategop
Not according to Rich Lowry:

Obama's IA Visit [Rich Lowry]

E-mail:

Having worked on several presidentials, I’d point out that this is likely simply due to geography. Since Obama trick-or-treating tonight in IL, his campaign stopped in IA before sending him home (aka, maximizing time in a geographic area). The campaign is then moving on to MO, and IN – showing complete flexibility and the confidence to play in states that are tossups and Obama doesn’t need to win, but needs in order to dominate.

One side or the other is going to be in for the shock of their life come Tuesday.

45 posted on 11/01/2008 4:38:35 AM PDT by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: Moconservative

I say it is 80% manipulation, 10% science and 10% art.


46 posted on 11/01/2008 5:18:31 AM PDT by kempster
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To: tatown
For President Barack 0bama and his world wide 0bamacon cult, the Upcoming Election is "Just a Mere Formality!".

The polls show that Lord 0bama has won.

So just stop this stupid and outdated technicality of an Election.

0sama/bama is now our FUERHER UBER BAMA, er president of America and the entire world.


47 posted on 11/01/2008 6:25:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0baMa0 have any friends, who are not foriegn or domestic terrorists,or religious terrorists?)
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To: MikeFrancesa.com

“Does anyone know if the Gop Trust Rev. Wright ads have made it further than just Ohio, PA, and Florida, are they going up in other states, I hope so.”

I live in Wisconsin and saw one last night.


48 posted on 11/01/2008 6:28:26 AM PDT by millerman
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To: tatown
There are no undecideds and Obama supporters do not have trouble verbalizing their support for him. McCain is going to win.
49 posted on 11/01/2008 6:29:03 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: goldstategop

I’m kinda glad TN hasn’t had to deal with the mad rush of ads.
We’ve been solid McCain since the primary dust settled.


50 posted on 11/01/2008 7:20:33 AM PDT by rewrite
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To: tatown

I knew it would be this way today. I just wanted to see McCain up one time to pump up the Conservatives. I’m happy!


51 posted on 11/01/2008 7:48:57 AM PDT by MiddleEarth ("The board is set. Pieces are moving. It has come to it at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I don’t understand. I go to the link and see Zogby’s writing, but I dont’ see anywhere where McCain is leading by 1 point. In his grid for 10/31, he has obama winning by 5.


52 posted on 11/01/2008 7:53:37 AM PDT by WesA (RE think that.)
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To: WesA

None of Zoby’s numbers average to what he says they average to. I do not get it. Please help.


53 posted on 11/01/2008 7:56:32 AM PDT by WesA (RE think that.)
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To: paul544

Obama’s IA Visit [Rich Lowry]

E-mail:
What a crock of shit. If this guy had Iowa in the bag, they wouldn’t be sending him there. PERIOD. Last time I checked, PA, IN, MO and even VA are 1 hour difference by plane from Chicago. To say that Obama went to Iowa because of geography is not only naive, it’s asinine.

“Having worked on several presidentials, I’d point out that this is likely simply due to geography. Since Obama trick-or-treating tonight in IL, his campaign stopped in IA before sending him home (aka, maximizing time in a geographic area). The campaign is then moving on to MO, and IN – showing complete flexibility and the confidence to play in states that are tossups and Obama doesn’t need to win, but needs in order to dominate.”


54 posted on 11/01/2008 8:14:59 AM PDT by rumrunner
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To: redk

It was a hoax, mistake, bad info, whatever, it is untrue, bogus. Look at the Zogby poll:

Week Four: Three-Day Tracking

Poll Obama McCain

10-31 49.1% 44.1%

10-30 50.1% 43.1%

10-29 50.2% 43.3%

10-28 49.1% 44.4%

10-27 49.0% 44.7%

Get out your calculator and explain how McCain has any kind of a lead. I tried to stop the bad number because I didn’t want to see FR laughed at. Clearly there is a mistake here and I thought someone ought to stand up and point it out so we don’t look like a bunch of drooling idiots jumping on anything to desperately make ourselves look good for supporting McCain.

We are Republicans, sensible and careful, with measured responses, not following everything Drudge says like the Obama robots follow Daily Kos.


55 posted on 11/01/2008 8:24:15 AM PDT by gandalftb (America's highest office.....Patriot)
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To: tatown
All polls are about as useful as getting your handwriting analyzed by a computer at the county fair. "You are a highly artistic person." Interesting to talk about but accurate only by chance. Pollsters have found that 80% of persons called refuse to participate. That leaves them at the whim of only 20% of the population. How can they hope to achieve any accuracy with that? Might as well flip coins.

One thing I am glad about is that the polls this year are mainly tight, with the exception of CBS, Newsweek, NYTimes, and other liberal rags that are known to be in the tank for Obama. The CBS numbers mirror what the actual vote may be in the State of New York. How, I ask, can they expect the rest of the country to vote exactly like New York?

PEW, a poll that has been wrong so many times they have as much credibility as "Baghdad Bob".

Forget 2004 when polls finally shaped up and were somewhat close to the actual result... last minute shenanigans, "October Surprise" dented some of Bush's support, ie: Dan Rather and his forged papers, etc. Otherwise 2004 would have been yet another embarrassing year for pollsters.

They were wrong in 2000, they were wrong in 1996 (by as much as 21%) and are not to be trusted.

The danger posed by polls to be used as voter suppression is such that they should be regulated. I propose that they should not be allowed to report results within 10 days of an election. Even if they were reliable, it is wrong to tell people the result of an election before it is held, but considering the mind-boggling inaccuracy of these polls over the years they have proven themselves to be nothing short of a DNC propaganda tool. This must be stopped.

I really think polls should be banned. Polls are not "speech" but a business. The polling business doesn't do any good for our country, and effects the outcome of elections by discouraging people to vote. Why vote if you have been told on TV that the other guy is going to win anyway? Lets push for a ban on all political polls and let these lazy number crunchers pick the football games to make a living.

56 posted on 11/01/2008 8:38:37 AM PDT by 1-Eagle (Send the pollsters a message.... VOTE! Every vote is needed for the McCain mandate.)
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To: gandalftb
Try reading the article: “Is McCain making a move? The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama today, 48% to 47%. He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all. “Obama’s lead among women declined, and it looks like it is occurring because McCain is solidifying the support of conservative women, which is something we saw last time McCain picked up in the polls. If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama’s good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on.” What you posted are the three-day rolling averages. The point is that McCain led in the poll results from Friday (which composes one day of the three days). This was offset by two good days of polling for Obama, but suggests significant movement towards McCain. FR isn't going to be laughed at for our ability to read articles and analyze trends, rather than just blindly looking at the overall tracking numbers.
57 posted on 11/01/2008 8:41:07 AM PDT by swmopatriot (God bless our troops, our Commander-in-Chief, and the USA!)
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To: 1-Eagle

Does McCain win on Tuesday?


58 posted on 11/01/2008 8:43:27 AM PDT by tatown
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To: swmopatriot
Look at the chart I posted from Zogby. How does McCain poll five straight days at 43-44% and then poll a 48%?

Come on, it's just nonsense.

Let's be a little skeptical here at least.

Because Drudge says it, we still need to think for ourselves and not over-react.

I agree on all the McCain positives you listed, I posted even more positives about the crossovers I expect.

We are all lit up because this is so important, but we have to resist the hype and hysteria of the Obama campaign.

59 posted on 11/01/2008 9:05:39 AM PDT by gandalftb (America's highest office.....Patriot)
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To: gandalftb

>Look at the chart I posted from Zogby. How does McCain poll five straight days at 43-44% and then poll a 48%?

The chart is showing his numbers over a three day average (notice is says “3 day tracking” poll). On the ONE day this article talks about, the poll returned 48 for McCain (just for that day). In the average, he is still down. But moving in the right direction.


60 posted on 11/01/2008 9:46:30 AM PDT by Frank L
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