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Adviser: "McCain to win every red state...probably win Pennsylvania and Iowa."
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Posted on 11/02/2008 12:30:36 PM PST by Retired Greyhound

On a brief jump flight from Philadelphia to Scranton, McCain adviser Charlie Black and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback came back to talk up the campaign's conviction that the glass if half full. "Four years ago at this point, George W. Bush was down five points in Iowa," Brownback said. "Today John McCain is down one point in Iowa."

He was citing an unreleased internal McCain campaign poll of the state, which was completed last Thursday, said Black. (The campaign stopped doing its own polling after Thursday, he added, because television time through the election all had to be purchased by Friday.) However, public polls in Iowa suggest that McCain is still in a big hole. Last week, the Des Moines Register poll, which has a good record of prediction in that state, put McCain's deficit at 17 points, with Barack Obama garnering 54 percent of the support.

"McCain is in a good position to win every red state," Black said. "Plus he is probably going to win Pennsylvania and Iowa." Polls have narrowed sharply in Pennsylvania in recent weeks, though Obama still has a sizable lead of 7 points in the Real Clear Politics average. Black said he had seen a poll recently that showed McCain tied in the Philadelphia suburbs, a crucial swing region of the state.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2008; barracuda; electionpresident; ia; iowa; maverick; pa; palin; redstates; thanks; win
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To: goldstategop

McC will win ALL the Bush states? I don’t see him with a prayer in NM or CO.
And the ACORN factor in OH has me worried too.


81 posted on 11/02/2008 1:10:08 PM PST by swami7774
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To: rwfromkansas; LS

I have to call BS on that one. LS can tell you that they don’t fool around on internals, they want to know EXACTLY where they stand. They don’t need something to make them feel better. Internal polling is done by third parties without a dog in the fight to get the real sense of where the candidates stand.

Case in point, I am sure we’ll find out after the fact, that Obama’s camp realized about two weeks ago that they were losing their edge with women. That is why the 150K Palin wardrobe story was blasted on the news at the EXACT SAME TIME that Obama went to see “dying” grandma. It was an attempt to stem the tide with women. Likewise, the stage Halloween photo op with his kid the other night was the same deal. Inside the Obama camp, they know that they don’t have enough support to win.

Outside, they are keeping the facade, hoping that they can suppress turnout on the GOP side. But I guarantee you, they know they don’t have enough to win. And I believe the McCain camp knows they really do have enough to win if the base shows up. Sarah Palin “guaranteeing” victory in PA last week wasn’t a fluke.


82 posted on 11/02/2008 1:13:51 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Obama/Biden '08, in and of itself, A Bridge To Nowhere)
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To: swami7774
That's because you're seeing only what's reflected in the MSM coverage - which is not very deep. I'm not worried. I'm happy as a lark today. Good news cheers me up. After 2006, I'll take whatever good news I can get.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

83 posted on 11/02/2008 1:14:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PhiKapMom; kesg; HamiltonJay

I’m not surprised this adviser’s pronouncement, but I am surprised at the omission of NH and WI. And if McCain/Palin win IA, then MN and MI should be right there as well.


84 posted on 11/02/2008 1:14:18 PM PST by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Retired Greyhound; Tribune7
"Black said he had seen a poll recently that showed McCain tied in the Philadelphia suburbs, a crucial swing region of the state."

I have been all over the Philly suburbs with a friend the last two months, and based on our observations, admittedly a completely unscientific measurement, surprisingly, campaign signs for McCain/Palin appear to be in the greater majority, and thus I would believe Obama/McCain are at least tied in the Philly subburbs.

Still praying for a victory Tuesday!!! Obama MUST NOT win!!!

85 posted on 11/02/2008 1:14:31 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08)
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To: Palin4ever

My vote will be offset by multiple fraudulent ACORN votes....I know they even bussed in mentally handicapped voters to Cleveland Election Hqtrs., filled their ballots out, and had them sign....(Heard from a WITNESS to such actions).


86 posted on 11/02/2008 1:15:51 PM PST by traditional1 ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery")
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To: latina4dubya

Supposedly Carter’s internal pollsters told him he was toast on the Friday before the election in ‘80, even though the public polls had him slightly ahead.


87 posted on 11/02/2008 1:16:55 PM PST by rashley (Rashley)
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To: swami7774
McC will win ALL the Bush states? I don’t see him with a prayer in NM or CO. And the ACORN factor in OH has me worried too.

Just vote and screw the lackadaisical following of the agenda of the biased machine of the media.

88 posted on 11/02/2008 1:17:59 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: squidly

The media whores will start calling this election when the polls close on the east coast for BHO...don’t be fooled...it’s McCain’s all the way......


89 posted on 11/02/2008 1:18:24 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: mwl8787

Absolutely right, watch the Philly fraud. Didn’t one Philly ward record a 105% voter turnout in a recent election?


90 posted on 11/02/2008 1:18:25 PM PST by swami7774
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To: GoMonster

Why don’t you and your wet towel take the day off.


91 posted on 11/02/2008 1:18:28 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: squidly

Your premise is correct. But the media will start spinning and being ‘careful’ if things look good for McCain. That will be the indicator that we are going to win - that the media doesn’t call Obama the clear winner by 9pm.

Also, look for those annual lawsuits to keep polls open in heavily black areas in Ohio, PA, VA and such. If you see those spring up in states that should be safe for Obama it means he knows he’s in trouble.


92 posted on 11/02/2008 1:19:49 PM PST by Cap74 (God is a Republican, Santa Claus is a Democrat -P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: swami7774; All

Is anyone concerned they stopped internal polling on TH?

By going until Monday, they could adjust some last-minute things.


93 posted on 11/02/2008 1:19:55 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: impeachedrapist
NH is solid. I don't see it as a problem. The internals are interesting and the reason they disclose them is because they think their candidate is doing much better than is generally known. If the MSM was right, McCain's adviser wouldn't be talking it up. We're going to win this - as long we turn out Tuesday and vote!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

94 posted on 11/02/2008 1:22:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: LS

“Hate to say I told you so but . . .

“Congratulations, President . . . McCain” (Congratulations, President McCain”

You sure are confident...You are going to take a lot of heat if we lose. :( I hope the heck you are right. :)


95 posted on 11/02/2008 1:22:46 PM PST by CSI007
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To: Retired Greyhound
I just stopped in at 6 working-men’s watering holes to drop off some campaign materials.

These are your basic Democratic/Union/tradesmen guys with calloused hands.

Out of a couple of hundred guys, I found one (1) Obama supporter. They're all supporting McCain.

And this was in Boston.

96 posted on 11/02/2008 1:23:39 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: johncocktoasten

it makes sense, but we always see leaks of internal polls showing good news for each side every election.

One of the polls has to be wrong. Of course, they are cherry-picking some stuff for public perception, so maybe you are right.

the REAL internal polls have to be accurate. They pay a lot of money for them, after all.


97 posted on 11/02/2008 1:23:45 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Squantos
VOTE EARLY IN CASE YER SICK OR INJURED OR WORSE AND CAN’T GET THERE ON THE 4TH !!!

Amen bro! That's exactly what we did.

Here in Scott county Iowa, early voting is still a relatively new thing (I think since 2000). The head of the county electioneers said that 38% of the registered voters in the county had already voted.

98 posted on 11/02/2008 1:25:46 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: goldstategop
I see you're back to your manic phase. Good.

I don't see NH as a problem either. It's an excellent opportunity for a win. I just don't understand why this adviser didn't add it to the equation of blue-state wins.

99 posted on 11/02/2008 1:26:17 PM PST by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Beckwith

Very impressive.

Only one Obama supporter in a union watering hole in Boston.


100 posted on 11/02/2008 1:26:23 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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