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Vanity: Only Ourselves to Blame
vanity | Nov 5, 2008 | Natural Law

Posted on 11/05/2008 12:57:38 PM PST by Natural Law

I am not wearing ashes and sack cloth today. Conservatism didn’t lose yesterday, it didn’t even show up. The dye was cast when McCain won the nomination in a highly flawed primary process, but the loss started years ago when we conceded control of the party to the big money and big tent elites. It continued when we convinced ourselves that it was in our best interests to not punish the party and the leftward moving candidates because the alternative would have been so much worse. We sealed our fate when we acquiesced to the party and media elites who limited our involvement in the process to voting as we are told to.

Many of us mourned and lamented when McCain won the nomination and only then convinced ourselves that there was still a clear choice. Choosing between Obama, a Fabian Socialist, and McCain, a RINO, meant that the choice was not about the direction of the country, but only on the pace it would move leftward.

Does anyone want to predict how conservative McCain’s judicial nominations would have been? Does anyone believe he would have secured the borders, stopped the waste of resources on the global warming fiasco, or drilled in ANWAR? Does anyone think he would have named the sponsors of earmarks and pork when he didn’t do it on the atrocity that was the bail-out bill when it might have done his campaign some good? Do you believe that with his complete lack of executive experience he would have managed the bloated federal bureaucracy any better than he managed his campaign? Do you believe that he would have stared down Pelosi, Reed, Schumer, and Frank or reached across the aisle in the spirit of bipartisanship to continue the leftward direction of the country like he did with McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold? Does anyone believe that Sarah Palin would have played anything more than a token role in his administration even if she had delivered the presidency to McCain? Does anyone think that the MSM would not have been treated in a business as usual mode? Neither do I.

Conservatism didn’t fail us, we failed it. So now that this perverse kabuki theater event has played itself out we can get on with the business of advancing conservatism. Unless we have the strength, determination, resources, and courage to retake the GOP we have no right to complain and no reason to expect anything different.


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1 posted on 11/05/2008 12:57:41 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Who should we have nominated? Duncan “0.5% in the SC primary” Hunter?

Hindsight is always 20/20.


2 posted on 11/05/2008 12:59:43 PM PST by Perdogg (Obama will not be my President)
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To: Natural Law

The ‘dye’ was cast? LOL.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 12:59:46 PM PST by jra
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To: Natural Law
...The dye was cast when McCain won the nomination in a highly flawed primary process...

Have you a list of flaws and solutions? Just curious of anyone does....

4 posted on 11/05/2008 1:01:07 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspell)
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To: Natural Law

The Republican Party needs to go to a National one day Primary. Enough with the horse race... We always seem to end up with a lame horse...


5 posted on 11/05/2008 1:01:45 PM PST by skikvt (Blah Blah Blah.)
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To: Perdogg
We had no choice the media poisoned the well, now we have to deal with this bogus hand we have been dealt.
6 posted on 11/05/2008 1:02:15 PM PST by boomop1
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To: Natural Law

Please, 0bama quoted more conservatives and used more conservative phrases than McCain did.


7 posted on 11/05/2008 1:02:30 PM PST by griswold3
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To: Natural Law

I’m curious too who you think would have won against Obama yesterday.

Huckabee? Guiliani? Romney? Hunter? Paul?


8 posted on 11/05/2008 1:04:48 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: theDentist

We need to restrict the party primary to party members only. However, conservative and conservatarian indies wouldn’t be happy.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 1:05:52 PM PST by Perdogg (Obama will not be my President)
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To: mgstarr

None of this would be happening of Fred Thompson was still alive!


10 posted on 11/05/2008 1:07:55 PM PST by MoreGovLess (The USA has one main political party: the Kleptocrats)
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To: Natural Law
I regard the election as a blessing in disguise. If our party stands for all things to all people, it will stand for nothing. Our opponents sound like conservatives. The victory speech Obama gave last night could have been delivered by Ronald Reagan. Yet our opponents are guided by power. We are guided by principles. When we return to them, I'm sure better days ahead await us and the country we all love.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 11/05/2008 1:08:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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"Have you a list of flaws and solutions?"

Sure, how about not agreeing to open primaries, or not having a voter ID requirement for a GOP event. How about a party rule for term limits? How about managing the primary calendar better? How about awarding delegates based upon the turn-out in previous elections.....heck maybe the smoke filled room would be better than letting the MSM manipulate the process for us.

12 posted on 11/05/2008 1:09:41 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Great summation and this is why I am GLAD Obama won. We were all up against a FANTASY with pitching people on believing McCain could be something that the libs (and apparently some conservatives)were convinced only the other guy had.

Well, yesterday, the fantasy died and reality was born. Now, instead of libs calling us liars when we say Obama is an ill equipped, socialist, culture of death, America hater they get to find out first hand. And it isn’t going to be pretty. But this is the ONLY way truth will be seen. That the scales come off the eyes and the deception falls away.

This is our chance to rewrite and redefine what conservatism really means. This is our chance to get a Ronnie Reagan after the Jimmy Carter. This is our chance to sweep the house and senate in 2010 with conservatives like what happened in ‘94 after Clinton was elected.

People have been praying for this nation and I fully believe that Obama getting elected is an answer to those prayers. The American people are soft and gullible. And the only way to toughen and smarten them up is put them on the front lines of truth and let them FEEL the effects of their decisions.

Pray without ceasing for this country. We need it. We have the best ally anyone could ask for. God and his precious Son Jesus Christ. Let’s ask them to fight for us.


13 posted on 11/05/2008 1:12:24 PM PST by spacejunkie
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To: MoreGovLess

Oh geez, I honestly forgot that he ran. He did right?


14 posted on 11/05/2008 1:16:00 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: spacejunkie
This is our chance to get a Ronnie Reagan after the Jimmy Carter.

And who would that be? Who is the new Reagan? You must have someone in mind. Reagan was around on the national scene long before he was elected in 1980. Who is there today? Don't say Sarah Palin. A one term governor from a state with little political clout who was part of a team that got slaughtered in a national election doesn't have much political capital to spend. It would be like Bill Miller making a run after '64.

15 posted on 11/05/2008 1:16:22 PM PST by chimera
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It’s that attitude that says ‘I don’t believe’ we can be who we want to be; who we say we are. There are PLENTY of strong conservatives out there. FR is full of them.

The problem is, if they don’t have “experience” in politics, they get lambasted by the media and the left. If they DO have experience, they’re part of the problem.

So. What we need is someone, male or female WITH BALLS. Someone that will fight back. And not like McCain that only fights his own party. We need someone that will stand up to the lies and deception. That will stand up to the media and defend him/herself and our party. Not like how pathetic Bush has been all these years to never stand up.

Sarah Palin is exactly the kind of person that represents the true conservative values and we need to get behind these kind of people and defend them and fight for them. THEN they will be put in power and we can get our principles back.


16 posted on 11/05/2008 1:22:10 PM PST by spacejunkie
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To: Natural Law

The original author of this:

“I am not wearing ashes and sack cloth today. Conservatism didn’t lose yesterday, it didn’t even show up.”

Is yet another dim witted fool. because what is being said, is that barry’s victory was because the neo conservatives could not see past their ego’s and refused to vote for McCain/Palin.

If this is true, then I apologize for calling the author a dim wit and instead transfer to the neo cons who hijacked this election. (Not that I believe this)


17 posted on 11/05/2008 1:22:27 PM PST by BornToBeAmerican (Sarah: I'm not going to just go along to get along.)
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To: mgstarr

In the loosest possible definition of the word, yes he ‘ran’.(although something between ‘crawled’ and ‘slept’ is more descriptive)


18 posted on 11/05/2008 1:23:20 PM PST by MoreGovLess (The USA has one main political party: the Kleptocrats)
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To: spacejunkie
"Well, yesterday, the fantasy died and reality was born. Now, instead of libs calling us liars when we say Obama is an ill equipped, socialist, culture of death, America hater they get to find out first hand. And it isn’t going to be pretty. But this is the ONLY way truth will be seen. That the scales come off the eyes and the deception falls away."

I'm cynical about them seeing any truth. As a long time resident of Massachusetts, I've come to the conclusion that Libs are most the stubborn and pig-headed sheeple. We keep electing the same corrupt evil politicians year after year, not on their merits but because they have a (D) after their name. I fear that once in power, Dems could cement themselves in for a long and dark period.

19 posted on 11/05/2008 1:28:06 PM PST by skikvt (Blah Blah Blah.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
"Is yet another dim witted fool. because what is being said, is that barry’s victory was because the neo conservatives could not see past their ego’s "

The problem wasn't a lack of Neo-Con participation, the problem was neo-conservatism and its willingness to compromise that got us a primary comprised of RINO's of various degrees. Of the conservatives who voted the estimates are that 15% of them voted for Obama. There are no numbers on the number that didn't bother to show up or vote for POTUS because neither choice was palatable, but I'll bet it was substantial.

20 posted on 11/05/2008 1:29:01 PM PST by Natural Law
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