Posted on 11/22/2008 6:57:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The real story is about the increase in first time gun permits. I’m retired military, but have never owned a functional personal fire arm. I’ve just begun the application process. The officer who handles fire arm permits told me it usually takes about a month in New Jersey. The long pole in the tent is the State Police back ground check. I’m hoping that my background check won’t take that long because I drove a school bus for several years and I’m retired military.
I’ve heard some horror tales from people who’ve applied for gun permits in other parts of NJ and other states. Apparently, their local police department was obstructive and confrontational. The officer handling my application has been very courteous and professional.
I’m buying a hand gun first. My inclination is to buy a revolver as opposed to an automatic. Easier maintenance and better reliabiity. I’d appreciate input from anyone who cares to weigh in.
>I am a new owner. So are other members of my family. I live on the border of an edgy neighborhood and if things get ugly like LA in ‘92, I know the cops won’t be here to help. They’ll be too busy defending Scottsdale.<
PLEASE: Locate someone knowledgeable in the subject, someone you trust and ask this question; What is the best way to defend myself, my family and my home with a firearm from a rioting crowd outside where some fool is likely to be on drugs or booze and armed.
The best way to make yourself a tiny, tiny target/victim is to get good insurance coverage.
WE JUST BOUGHT OUR HANDGUN THIS WEEK! I LOVE IT! Already had a shotgun and a rifle but this is our first handgun. Gotta go learn how to use it and take the test for concealed handgun license! We had been shopping for a gun for about a year and the Houston stores were selling out faster than they could get them in. And I did not want to wait till Jan. 20!
I heard some stats on guns last week on Houston radio and they said more crimes are stopped by guns. And the guns were NEVER FIRED. Just a victim of a crime brandishing a handgun is often all it takes to make the culprit run the other way. They gave no details.
I heard a man call into talk radio a few weeks ago and he said he was parked at a 7-11 type store, convenience store, and a car parked behind him. One of the passengers walked up to his window. Without thinking he just grabbed his gun and pointed it at the culprit outside his window. The culprit walked back to his car, got in, drove off. The victim said he didn’t know if he was doing the right thing, or if he could be endangering himself, like if the culprit had a gun, too. But at least this time we had a happy ending! Thanks to a gun.
Yes, in a case where it is one on one or even one on six a handgun can cool the situation down quickly. When it is one on 500, especially if there is a color difference, the smartest thing to do is skeedaddle out of there.
Now five on 500 changes the situation again because the crowd knows that without close coordination where they take out the five simultaneously, someone is going to end up leaving their blood and maybe their life on the ground.
It’s the booze and drugs that throw all logic out the window. If some jerk in the back fires a shot thinking that the crowd in front of him will protect him from return fire, which it probably would, an innocent person ends up as the victim. Then when it all gets in front of the judge and jury, a year later, the defendant is flat broke and wishing he or she hadn’t been so damn scared and fired back.
The information you heard is based on a research done by Gary Kleck, PhD., a Professor in the School of Criminology and Criminal Justice at Florida State University.
Sometimes I’ll pay a bit over over mail order prices to help support the local shop.
Yeah, I can buy stuff cheaper at walmart or by bulk mail order but neither of those can help me face to face in a pinch.
So much depends on what you want your arms for and where you see the future going.
No home should be without a shotgun and carbine, then handguns.
And that is in ordinary times.
Many people right now are leaning towards private owner sales to legally avoid sales records.
Some things to think about are how many calibers do you want to buy ammo for, would you rather have a $1000 top shelf .45 1911 or three reliable inexpensive revolvers in the same caliber, how much do you shoot and how much do you intend to put towards maintaining your goods.
And a lot depends on what you see yourself doing with them...simple personal household protection or more?
FYI go read “Unintended Consequences”.
Your question is irrelevant and not helpful to the discussion. 2ndDivisionVet posted a comment that was factually untrue. I and several other posters have attempted to educate him. Some of them were gentler than he deserves. Whether he chooses to learn and refrain from posting balderdash in the future remains to be determined.
Your sophomoric attempt to validate 2ndDivisionVet’s incorrect statement by subterfuge is quite transparent and reveals much about your own gun-nut fantasies.
I just returned from the Portland, Oregon Gun Show. The place was packed, however the gun dealers at the show were engaging in price gouging. There were several Colt AR-15’s that were priced over the MSRP.
Some guns literally had the old price crossed out, and a new, higher price written above it.
Same with many ammo dealers as well.
At least, if the person is willing to pay the price of a car for a full auto.
It’s not, really
What you consider “overkill,” would just be on the side for me should I have to make an escape out of NYC.
Does the general public have a Ford or Chevy in their garage or a Lamborghini?
I’ll make it a tad easier on you. Does the general public have a 200 dollar Mossberg in their closet or a Ma Duece?
The general public simply can’t afford one let alone keep it fed.
Please let me know when we have a real Supreme Court ruling and I can buy a Reising for what they really cost from a store like WalMart.
http://www.ww2gyrene.org/weapons_reising.htm
You’re still correct.
The answer is what’s the price of an AR-15 compared to an M-16?
I’ve been in Texas since 1990 and I have walked into a total of two gunstores that offered Full Auto. I can walk into all those other gunstores and walk out with every bit of their inventory if I had the cash on me.
The timelimit to do the same for Full Auto is MONTHS.
General public my @##.
Again you are posting "facts" that are not true. No special license is required to buy or own an automatic weapon. You do a great disservice to this forum by posting such tripe. Please learn the subject rather than dispense ignorance.
Good bye.
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