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In supporting murder, you are supporting the murderer. To turn a blind eye is to sanction evil.

And even if Life isn't a top agenda item for you, remember, the new fuhrer voted for allowing LIVE deliveries to die. THAT is murder, pure and simple.

1 posted on 11/30/2008 1:20:28 PM PST by freedumb2003
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To: freedumb2003

Unfortunately, the majority of Catholics voted for Obama.


2 posted on 11/30/2008 1:29:55 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: narses

ping


3 posted on 11/30/2008 1:32:43 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your power dry, folks)
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To: freedumb2003

Mortal sin or not it certainly was an act of cataclysmic stupidity.


5 posted on 11/30/2008 1:35:02 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I refuse allegiance to any foreign born president.)
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To: freedumb2003

Just a heads-up on this item. It is being widely misreported. The priest wrote that parishioners should go to confession if they voted for Obama, if they knew that it was wrong to do so and that it was a major/grave matter, or something along those lines. The “if” is not getting reported. In order for a sin to be a sin, one has to know that one is doing wrong. So he rightly was asking them to consider whether they knew that it was wrong to vote for Obama—only in that case would they need to confess it as sin.

It is being reported as if he said to them, “look, you voted for him, you knew it was wrong, you knew it was serious, so all of you have to go to confession.” He did not say that—he could not say that because no one can know just what the other person knew, how deliberately and with full consent the other person did something.

I would imagine the priest is mostly just trying to get folks’ attention so that in the future they will take abortion more seriously. He’s trying to inform them, put them on notice, as it were. And those who truly did know that it was wrong to vote for Obama and did so with full consent, well, they need to go to confession. But he’s not saying that everyone who voted for Obama committed a mortal sin—there’s no way he can say or know that. Remember, only mortal sins have to be confessed, though confession of venial sins is recommended by the Church. So in order for his pastoral advice to be correct, he has to make clear that he’s talking about mortal sin and in the case of voting for Obama, one has to be cognizant of the gravity of the matter and vote for him despite that. One would think that the bishops’ speaking out on this would have put every Catholic on notice, but in fact, a lot of Catholics were blissfully ignorant of what their own bishops said and all to many bishops didn’t say enough. So just how many of this pastor’s parishioners need to confess a mortal sin of voting for Obama, is hard to say. Sadly, probably not very many of them. He is, however, trying to get their attention.


6 posted on 11/30/2008 1:37:55 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: freedumb2003

Could be? I suppose he is right. For a sin to be a mortal sin it must be an inherently grave evil—yes, voting for a pro-abortion candidate is inherently gravely evil. The person must know it is inherently gravely evil and must freely elect to do so. Clearly those who voted for Obama meet the last criterion. Unfortunately, they may be as stupid as squid in that they do not realize that abortion and voting for a pro-abortion candidate are inherently gravely evil. Unfortunately, too few bishops and priests have given sermons on these evils.


8 posted on 11/30/2008 1:40:25 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: freedumb2003
A Roman Catholic priest has told parishioners they should confess if they voted for Barack Obama because the president-elect supports abortion..

Many Catholics are "basically good people" who cannot connect the dots. To them murder of children is nothing more than being "pro choice" and an issue that has been on the back burner for years. Their weak understanding of the economy is far more important as well as a myriad of other issues put forward by the Democrats that they like, especially entitlements.

They simply do not understand that they will perish if they do not take a stand in favor of the culture of life. A stand for life would force the Democrat Party to put forward candidates who support life. But greed, ignorance, and superstition takes over for them like other liberals with disordered minds.

9 posted on 11/30/2008 1:41:38 PM PST by olezip
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To: freedumb2003

Admittedly, I don’t know much about Catholicism, but don’t they just go to confession and say a “Hail Mary” or something and all is good again?


10 posted on 11/30/2008 1:41:50 PM PST by FrankR (A lie would have no sense unless the truth were felt dangerous.- Alfred Adler)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

13 posted on 11/30/2008 1:45:17 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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The obligatory anti-Catholic hate speech by self-righteous fundamentalist evangelical Freepers shall commence in 5... 4... 3...

...whoops, they’ve already arrived.


21 posted on 11/30/2008 2:01:01 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: freedumb2003

Hey, you don’t have to be Catholic to agree with that!! On that great “gettin’ up morn’ “ we will find ourselves accountable for every word, thought and deed. Guaranteed.


25 posted on 11/30/2008 2:11:31 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: freedumb2003

I know catholics who vote democrat every time. They do not have the brains to know they are supporting abortion. They totally separate their church stuff from the rest of their life. Voting democrat, as long as that party supports abortion on demand, is a mortal sin. The worst kind of crime, taking a helpless child’s life. How surprised these liberal catholics must be when they are denied entry to heaven. They have supported the murder of God’s precious innocent children. This sin is a black cloud that hangs over our nation. We deserve God’s harsh judgement for allowing this to happen.


40 posted on 11/30/2008 5:00:01 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: freedumb2003
Could be?

Supporting abortion in any way is a mortal sin!

enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here

1: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches
1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion,
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm
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2: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches
2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm
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3: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches
2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3),
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm
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4: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches
gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

41 posted on 11/30/2008 5:00:01 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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Not only could voting For Obama Be a ‘Mortal Sin’ it's mortally STUPID.

0bama is not an American—not by citizenship, and especially not by fidelity and loyalty to the Constitution and founding principles.

"Abortion and euthanasia are crimes which no human law can claim to legitimize. There is no obligation in conscience to obey such laws; instead there is a grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to “take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law, or vote for it” Pope John Paul II, The Gospel of Life, 1995 - section 73 (excerpt):
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_25031995_evangelium-vitae_en.html

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51 posted on 11/30/2008 7:42:54 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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