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Supreme Court rejects Obama case
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120808zor.pdf ^

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment

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To: Mojave

Here’s one:

The father is listed at Frank Marshall Davis.

Remember that Hawaii did not authenticate the short-form certification posted on the Web.


701 posted on 12/08/2008 12:57:15 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: IrishPennant

Technically, I wasn’t even born in one of the states of the United States.


702 posted on 12/08/2008 12:58:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Technical Editor

Oh, guys, FYI, when you make an adjective of “Congress” and “Constitution,” you use lowercase initial letters. So “constitutional requirement” and “congressional testimony.”

The better our writing, the more our audience has reason to continue hearing us out.


703 posted on 12/08/2008 12:59:37 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: IrishPennant
Not a very inspiring list, is it? Look: if you all can find the "smoking gun", well, America deserves to see it. I would only counsel spending too much time and effort on trying to nail a guy we already know has some ethical problems, bad associates and radical views rather than trying to figure out how to beat him politically.

Some random thoughts about this whole mess:

In a way, we made the same mistake with Bill Clinton; we all knew who and what he was, revealed him before the American people, and in the end: they didn't give a damn. I'd hate to see us do the same thing again when the long-term strategy for victory is about far more mundane things: organizing, party-building, networking, issue identification, communications, fund-raising, etc.

Another thing to beware is the perception of negativity. Thanks (and really, no thanks) to Republican Party control by big-government RINO's and elitists, Conservatives were marginalized, and the message muddled until it sounded like we didn't stand for anything much different from Democrats, and nothing positive or upbeat in any event.

There was Obama out there talking up "hope" and "change" (empty phrases, true, but at least he sounded like an optimist) and all McCain could do was attack rather than articulate a vision of his (our) own. Since Reagan departed the scene, Republicans seem to have a Vision Disability, and it can't be cured with either bifocals or Beltway thinking.

We need leadership and vision and ideas, because Mr. Obama only pretends to lead, but is blinded by the glare of his own ego while lacking any ideas that don't date from the 19th century.

704 posted on 12/08/2008 12:59:49 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: MHGinTN

You, like John McCain, could very well still be a natural born citizen, though. Are you?


705 posted on 12/08/2008 1:00:34 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: rodguy911

Ancient Chinese Secret..... ;)


706 posted on 12/08/2008 1:00:48 PM PST by BossLady (Ok Everybody......Get Ready For ......'THE MOOD RING PRESIDENCY'......)
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To: dman4384; xzins; Lord_Calvinus; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; enat; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ...
Anyone else, for any other job, and that person would be called a nutcase to spend so much money, to avoid such a simple task.

That is the point, isn't it? Why wage an expensive battle over nothing?

This deceit now paves the way for other "non-natural born citizens" to run for President. Wonder what Arnold is planning?

Soon our sovereignty will mean less than the paper on which Obama's live birth was recorded.

707 posted on 12/08/2008 1:02:03 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: CharacterCounts

Nice try. David Axelrod woul dbe proud of you and your platoon pushing that notion that this would be a suer overturning the election. The fact is, if Obama is not eligible, and he claims to be such a Constitutional scholar that even Clarence Thomas doe snot meet his level of competence, then it is Barack Hussein Obama, affirmative action candidate, who has in fact overtunred an election due to his fraudulent scam. Character does count, and your little squirrel has proven he has none by spending so much money and garnering so much unrest in the domestic tranquility because he refuses to prove he is eligible on Constitutional grounds. And your character is becoming somewhat questionable too


708 posted on 12/08/2008 1:03:42 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rlmorel
I am asking you because we have a difference of opinion, and I think you are wrong.

I may be wrong, but unfortunately for you, all of the courts that have touched this case agree with my position.

I don't think you are the lunatic fringe and have never implied so. I do think that many here are deeply disappointed in the Obama election and are grasping at straws in the hopes of undoing the election.

709 posted on 12/08/2008 1:04:08 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: Badeye

Well, I know how this may sound, but....has anyone ever explained “Building 7” ?


710 posted on 12/08/2008 1:05:31 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I think we have gotten through bad times again and ignoring a big deal like this because of what it MIGHT do to us is going to keep people asleep.


711 posted on 12/08/2008 1:05:57 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Such events are a big deal.

And yet no one is saying, "Barack Obama was born here."

This is an oddity that must be explained.

712 posted on 12/08/2008 1:06:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Hey Horowitz! Just because we don't swing left doesn't mean we're "unhinged".)
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To: luvadavi

Yes, several thousand times now, actually.


713 posted on 12/08/2008 1:07:55 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: MHGinTN

Any person born in the continental United States, regardless of parentage, is a citizen. Do the words “anchor baby” mean anything to you? I don’t know where the jackass was born, but I certainly don’t want him as President, to the contrary of your silly insinuation.


714 posted on 12/08/2008 1:08:37 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Obammy is the phantom President.
There are so many gaps in this guy’s history, it’s unbelievable.


715 posted on 12/08/2008 1:09:25 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: MHGinTN
And your character is becoming somewhat questionable too

Just a I don't respond to a child's temper tantrums, I usually do not bother to respond to people who call me liar and question my character merely because they disagree with my position.

716 posted on 12/08/2008 1:09:53 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: Technical Editor
Donofrio’s suit and the CT one appear to be about forcing the secretaries of state in NJ and CT to carry out the law that is already on the books for putting names of candidates on the ballot — that they be verified to be qualified “according to the law.” Neither SoS has done so. I cannot understand the grounds for the SC to not review that case. Why should the SC say, “Ok, you don’t need to perform the actions required by the law, Ms. SoS of New Jersey.”

The point I was making was that Wrotnowski in his claim to the U.S. Supreme Court is arguing that the lower Courts dismissed him based on a statute that does not apply to him. The statute, however, does apply. He does not go the next step and say, even if the statute does apply to me, the lower courts were wrong to find that I did not have standing under that statute. Generally in a pleading to the Court, an attorney would say, "ABC statute does not apply to the facts in this case, but assuming for the sake of argument it does apply, then here is why I am in compliance with that statute." I don't read Wrotnowski's Supreme Court papers as making that second part of the argument.

In deciding whether to take a case, Supreme Court of the United States will only consider the arguments in the pleadings; it will not make the argument for the attorney.

717 posted on 12/08/2008 1:09:57 PM PST by hankbrown
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
So basically there's no answer to your question that can't be construed as a conspiracy theory, right?

That's a vivid imagination you've got.

718 posted on 12/08/2008 1:12:24 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: EternalVigilance
Good point.

I resisted this conspiracy theory for awhile. Then I read Obama's autobiography, and noticed more than a few discrepancies in his dates and locations. Some small; some not so small, but all missteps that most editors would catch...if the truth were available.

719 posted on 12/08/2008 1:13:46 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: bvw

Leave it to Hannity to go on and on and on about something stupid.

Let me guess, it was a 45 minute rant?


720 posted on 12/08/2008 1:13:48 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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