Posted on 12/08/2008 10:26:37 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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It is not too late to save the Big Three. But the solution is not to tear down the historic and heroic gains won by prior generations of UAW workers. If there is hope long term -- for the unionized Big Three companies and for the UAW -- it rests in dealing with the unfinished business of the 1980s: unionizing the unorganized transplants.
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Well, you CAN be (b) without being (a); I’m not so sure you can be (a) without being (b), though...
I hope everyone here realizes that is democrats goal and if UAW goes bankrupt it will not help the cause.
...which is what the UAW effectively becomes if they manage to "organize" ALL the auto plants in the country.
The pensions are actually not a problem right now since they are overfunded. In the past, GM contributed to the pension fund far more money than was necassary, so today the fund more than enough money to pay the current retirees without reducing GM's cash flow.
It's the retiree healthcare costs that are killing them. Also hurting them very badly are idiotic work rules that reduce productivity, as well as job security provisions such as the so-called "jobs bank." Currently GM is paying around 8,000 workers who don't work.
Bump to that.
Labor's Time (Shorter Hours, the UAW, and the Struggle for American Unionism)
He is a total fawning apologist for the UAW.
The Big three should have made an all out effort to break the UAW. They should have been placing non-exempt salaried employees in many of the new production plants that they built. Leave the hourly pay scales behind.
Bit by bit, develop a new model line, open a new non union plant with tax concessions and close the union plant. Sell the property and move on.
well, the result is similar: abort the child, abort the business.
You just got to love liberals and their egalitarian solutions to everything: The only way to make everyone happy is to make sure they are all miserable.
You gotta love it though. Take the successful companies and put them out of business by foisting upon them the troubles of the rotten companies.
He is
c) environmentalist
he and his buddies simply dream of driving all manufacturing out of US and unions with their armies of useful idiot is the absolutely best tool available.
You're right. In 2112, all will be run by the Priests of the Temple of Syrinx.
You might very well be on to something there...
Neil, is that you?
Alex?
Geddy?
The other part of the plan (in conjunction with “card check) is trade restrictions and tariffs.
As far as the unions go, the law related to extortion was repealed. We are going to prop up the auto makers and the union too? Just a bad idea and typical of a government fix.
The jobs at southern auto plants pay more and have better benefits than any other jobs in the area. GM and Ford have been closing plants in the south at a fairly brisk pace the last few years. You’ll never convince someone at a souther Toyota plant (that already feels they are doing pretty well) they should unionize and risk having the plant shut down.
I think the big 2 1/2 have taken being unionized as such a status quo that the never have imagined life without the unions.
“So, the solution to saving the auto industry is not to use companies that are doing better as a model to fix what’s wrong with the failing companies, it’s to make the succeeding companies use the failing companies models? Ooookay... “
It’s the crab in the bucket analogy. There is a bucket of live crabs. One crab wants out and starts to climb. The others, instead of following the crab out of the bucket, pulls it back down.
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