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Mitt Romney : A Republican Stimulus Plan
National Review ^ | Dec 19,2008 | Mitt Romney

Posted on 12/20/2008 3:09:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind

What is Washington waiting for? The inauguration is less than five weeks away: At the rate we’ve been going, another 500,000 jobs will be lost by then. The downward spiral is deepening and accelerating: Congress and the president must act now.

American families have lost about $11 trillion in net worth as securities and home values have plummeted. This translates into about $400 billion less annual consumer spending, net of government safety-net funding. Exports won’t grow to make this up, as the dollar has strengthened with investors worldwide clamoring for its relative security. Investments won’t make up the gap either, as bank loans and secondary-market financing have shrunk and as fresh equity is virtually non-existent.

So this is surely the time for economic stimulus. But — and this is the crucial point — the government can’t just make itself bigger and more oppressive in the guise of stimulating the economy. That would make matters worse. Nor should we forget that fiscal stimulus is but one part of the solution. As Christina Romer, Barack Obama’s designee as chairperson of the Council of Economic Advisors concluded from her study of the Great Depression, bad monetary policy was its greatest cause and good monetary policy was its most effective cure. The Fed should continue to expand the money supply. And, it should confirm that it will not tolerate deflation — the pain of inflation pales in comparison.

That being said, a stimulus plan is needed without further delay, and there are some things that Republicans should insist on.

The first is that tax cuts are part of the solution. Harvard professor and economist Greg Mankiw points out that recent research confirms that tax cuts have a greater multiplier effect than new spending — more economic bang for the federal buck. We should lower tax rates for middle-income families and eliminate their tax on savings altogether — no tax on interest, dividends or capital gains. Let’s also align our corporate tax rate with those of competing nations. These actions will rapidly expand consumption and investment, and right now, time is of the essence.

On the spending front, infrastructure projects should be a high priority. But because infrastructure projects involve engineering, environmental studies, permitting and contracting, they can take a long time to actually boost the economy. Spending to refurbish and modernize our military equipment is urgently needed, and it has a more immediate impact on the economy. A great deal of our armament was damaged or lost in the Middle East, and the rest is long overdue for maintenance.

We should also invest to free us from our dependence on foreign oil, not by playing venture capitalist, but by funding basic research in renewables, material science, combustion, nuclear reprocessing, and the like. During the 2008 campaign, virtually every candidate agreed on the need for an “Apollo-like mission” to achieve energy independence. Now is the time to start.

Cities and states will clamor for government dollars. Like the Big Three automakers, states should first take advantage of the downturn to do some needed cost cutting and restructuring. State employee numbers, pensions, and health-insurance premium sharing — as well as duplicate and ineffective agencies and programs — should be high on the hit list. State budgets should be brought in line with those of the most efficient of their comparables. And the federal government should look to ease the burden of mandates on states, like Medicaid.

Republicans should also lay down a gauntlet: All new spending projects should be selected by the responsible federal agency according to published criteria, not by congresspersons and senators based upon favors and politics. Republicans should commit to vote no on any stimulus bill with earmarks that have not been voted upon by their entire body.

There is a danger that new spending and deficits will lead to runaway inflation, flight from the dollar, and another economic crisis. It is essential, therefore, that Congress and the president commit to reform entitlement spending as soon as the economy recovers. With the footing of our long term economy at risk, with entitlements already reaching 60 percent of federal spending and with baby boomers nearing retirement, this can be delayed no longer.

We must also be careful to avoid burdening the economy with excessive regulation in response to the need to reform regulatory oversight of the financial sector. Going too far could cripple the entire industry, further tightening the credit markets. And we should make it clear that Washington will not act to virtually impose unions on small business by eliminating the right of workers to vote by secret ballot in the workplace. This “card check” payback for the AFL-CIO’s support of the Democrats would devastate business formation and employment.

The Democrats may want to wait for Obama, but the country needs action now. Republicans can — and must — play an important role in shaping a stimulus bill that makes sense for America and lays a foundation for future prosperity and growth.

--— Mitt Romney is the former governor of Massachusetts.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; bush; goawaymitt; gop; mittbots; republican; rinos; romney; stimulus; whiners
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts; EternalVigilance
I read this as an affirmative that you voted for John McCain in the primaries. What a wonderful conservative you make.

LOL.

EV is FR's most vigilant supporter of Alan Keyes. Has been for years.

151 posted on 12/20/2008 6:14:43 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Halo 3: Recon - Due out in Fall 2009!)
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To: FreeReign
You do realize that selecting a spending project and appropriating money for that project are two different things... right?

You do realize that the power to select spending necessarily obligates appropriated funds for it?

For example DOD selects a tanker project. Congress allocates money for the tanker project.

No, agencies REQUEST funds for projects, run their requests through OMB examiners, negotiate for a share of anticipated appropriations, then take their negotiated proposals for spending to the President for possible inclusion in the President's budget proposal to Congress.

Romney, the Constitution hating socialist, proposed to give the spending selection powers to the agencies, your koolaid drinking spin notwithstanding.

Take a basic civics class.

152 posted on 12/20/2008 6:21:02 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

153 posted on 12/20/2008 6:24:35 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Edit35
Romney has never been 100% perfect on everything (who is?), but he has been the only Republican with new supply-side ideas... and the only Republican (except Sarah Palin) with the gonads to fight the liberal machine.


154 posted on 12/20/2008 6:25:31 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Mojave
You do realize that selecting a spending project and appropriating money for that project are two different things... right?

Romney, the Constitution hating socialist, proposed to give the spending selection powers to the agencies, your koolaid drinking spin notwithstanding.

Apparently not.

Dope.

155 posted on 12/20/2008 6:28:23 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Diogenesis
While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney claims he did everything possible to throttle homosexual marriage in his state

Just wait till he gives federal agencies the power to select to spend taxpayer dollars on projects promoting gay marriage.

156 posted on 12/20/2008 6:29:54 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: FreeReign
Apparently not.

Then he was just lying when he proposed giving agencies the power to select their own spending? Admittedly, Romney's word is worthless.

157 posted on 12/20/2008 6:32:33 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Mojave

Hey, why would Slick Willard fight the liberal machine when he IS the liberal machine ? ;-)


158 posted on 12/20/2008 6:36:17 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Mojave
Revisionist Edit35 (in cultist RomneyBOT mode): "Romney has never been 100% perfect on everything (who is?),
but he has been the only Republican with new supply-side ideas...
and the only Republican (except Sarah Palin) with the gonads to fight the liberal machine."

Ignore Romney's past abdication to Democrats - check
Ignore Romney's appointment of corrupt, liberal pro-criminal judges, overlooking GOP candidates - check

Ignore Romney's ignoring Mass Constitution - check
Ignore Romney's wussiness to criticism using tears and fabricated 'religious persecution' - check
Ignore Romney's use of fake law enforcement officers (caught in two states) - check

Ignore Romney is the MSM's choice because they have files already prepared against him - check
Ignore Romney's coverup of the "Big Dig" for donations - check.
Ignore Romney's bankruptcy of Mass for his HillaryCARE=RomneyCARE - check.

Ignore Romney's targetting of other GOP candidates - check
Ignore Romney's decimation of Mass GOP and that he couldn't win Mass to Hillary -check
Ignore Romney's real impact on Massachusetts - check

Ignore Romney's federal bailout of the Olympics - check
Ignore Romney's begging for a federal bailout of RomneyCARE - check
Ignore Romney's use of the Mormon card and his CRYING like a baby to try to defect from his record or criticism - check

159 posted on 12/20/2008 6:37:54 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Hey, why would Slick Willard fight the liberal machine when he IS the liberal machine ?

With his bailout budget mindset combined with with spending to be decided by unelected bureaucrats, Romney is fighting to out-liberal the liberals.

160 posted on 12/20/2008 6:39:23 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Mojave

Yup, that’s the M.O. of leftist Democrat agents deep within the GOP.


161 posted on 12/20/2008 6:41:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Mojave
It's what Romney knows. The massive taxpayer funded bailout of the Olympic games Willard engineered was his original ticket to the national spotlight.

Very good point. I'm not even sure Romney understands the utter statism of his past record. He doesn't strike me as too bright in that regard.

162 posted on 12/20/2008 7:15:08 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Mojave

Maybe you can post this picture another 2,000 or so times just to remind yourself and everyone else how obsessed you are with having photos of Romney at your fingertips.

I mean, we just haven’t seen it enough.

Don’t you have any other arguments except the health care plan (that was endorsed/supported by the Heritage Foundation) and a few dumb comments he made nearly 16 years ago.

By that standard, ALL Republicans should spark such hatred and derision.

Why don’t you post the 10,000 pictures of McCain playing kissie kissie legislation with liberal anti-American politicians FAR WORSE than anything Romney ever did?

Why is you hate focused solely on Romney, and not the other God-awful Republicans who ARE IN OFFICE RIGHT NOW!!!!!

Whether you like or hate the Massachusetts health care plan Romney and the Democratic legislature enacted, at least it is an effort involving the private sector ... NOT a single payer Hillary care boondoggle that Romney haters claim.


163 posted on 12/20/2008 7:21:05 PM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: SeekAndFind
... the government can’t just make itself bigger and more oppressive in the guise of stimulating the economy. That would make matters worse. Nor should we forget that fiscal stimulus is but one part of the solution. As Christina Romer, Barack Obama’s designee as chairperson of the Council of Economic Advisors concluded ...

(He just had to get in that little kiss ...)

"Fiscal stimulus" as envisioned by this suck-up is part of the problem. He's a manager, for Pete's sake. Romney fails to grasp that government is the problem. He thinks it's part of the solution -- you just have to do it right, like:

We should also invest to free us from our dependence on foreign oil, not by playing venture capitalist, but by funding basic research in renewables, material science, combustion, nuclear reprocessing, and the like.

WHAT A PUTZ.

164 posted on 12/20/2008 7:24:56 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Edit35

Because Juan is finished running for President. Slick Willard persists on keeping up with his farce. We’re gonna drive a stake through that Socialist vampire’s heart.


165 posted on 12/20/2008 7:25:05 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Leisler

No he is not. You just make things up and assume no one knows better.


166 posted on 12/20/2008 7:30:14 PM PST by broncobilly
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To: LiveFree99
Dear Santa,
Please make this loser, socialist, phony, "I'm not sure if I own a gun or not" Romney joker go away for all of 2009. I promise to be really good next year, I really, really do.

DITTO

167 posted on 12/20/2008 7:32:55 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: broncobilly
EVERYONE knows better than Romney.

FLASHBACK: Romney's lack of good judgment:

First, who else but Romney would install gay marriage and socialized medicine.

Second:

As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon,
keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble.
''Dad!'' he yelled. ''Gross!'' A brown liquid was dripping down the back window,
payback from an Irish setter who'd been riding on the roof in the wind for hours.
As the rest of the boys joined in the howls of disgust,
Romney coolly pulled off the highway and into a service station.
There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car,
then hopped back onto the highway.


Third, it was illegal, but Romney is always "above the law (see fake badges, impersonating LEO in multiple states)"

But the details of the event are more than unseemly — they may, in fact, be illegal.
Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone
from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel
or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the
animal carried thereon." An officer for the Massachusetts Society
for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation
saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out." The officer,
Nadia Branca, declined to give a definitive opinion on whether Romney broke the law
but did note that it's against state law to have a dog in an open bed of a pick-up truck,
and "if the dog was being carried in a way that endangers it, that would be illegal."


Fourth, it was classic ROmney.

"Romney Loses Nomination Over Dog Abuse?
Romney was traveling that summer with his wife, five sons, and Seamus to his parent's cottage on Lake Huron.
But hours into the ride, Seamus apparently suffered diarrhea,
which ran down the back window of the car. Romney's sons, all under 13, howled in disgust.
Romney pulled off the road into a service station.
There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car, and they drove on to Ontario.
.....David Kravitz wrote on BlueMassGroup, a liberal blog.
"It also strikes me as classic Romney: it solves a problem efficiently,
in a business-like manner, and with no regard whatsoever
for the suffering that the solution may cause."


Story about dog on car roof comes back to bite Romney
Critics, jokesters make issue of tale
TIME.com's Swampland blog has been flooded with more than 200 comments
from readers complaining of animal cruelty,


Dog on Roof? What Was It Like for Romney's Pooch?
Scientists Say Dog Likely Experienced Wind-Whipped, Uncomfortable Trip
"Before beginning the drive, Mitt Romney put Seamus, the family's hulking Irish setter,
in a dog carrier and attached it to the station wagon's roof rack.
e'd built a windshield for the carrier, to make the ride more comfortable for the dog," read the article.
Jordan Kaplan, the owner of Petaholics, a dog walking service in New York City,
and a lifelong dog owner and dog lover, said Romney's actions were uncalled for.
....What Happens to a Dog on a Roof Traveling 50 MPH?

168 posted on 12/20/2008 7:34:13 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: nmh

[One can only hope that Evangelicals and other bigots will get over themselves and vote for Mitt.]

And one can only hope that Mormon bigots would not vote 97% Mormon so we don’t get stuck with Willard next time around.


169 posted on 12/20/2008 7:36:12 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote

Slick Willard’s nomination in 2012 assures his good friend, the False Messiah of Kenya, a 2nd term. And if folks don’t believe that, just ask the other Black Socialist from Chicago he helped elect to the Governorship of Massachusetts.


170 posted on 12/20/2008 7:42:18 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: SeekAndFind
Top 10 RINOs (Republicans in Name Only)
Ranked by the editors of Human Events on 12/27/2005
 
1. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R.I.)
Once approached by Democratic Leader Harry Reid to switch parties, Chafee has long supported liberal policies. He backs legal abortion, gay rights, federal-funded health care, strict environmental protections and a higher minimum wage. Opposes ANWR drilling. Also was the only Republican in Congress not to endorse the President’s reelection and one of three who tried to gut Bush’s tax cuts.
2. Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine)
A self-described “centrist,” Snowe scored a 100% pro-choice voting record as scored by NARAL and consistently votes with Democrats on social issues. 

3. Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.)
“Snarlin’ Arlen” warned Bush not to nominate judges who might overturn Roe v. Wade, joined Chaffee reducing tax cuts and supported Democrats on the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, HMO and overtime regulation. Also opposed school choice in Washington, D.C.

4. Sen. Susan Collins (Maine)
Voted with liberals on the 1999 tax cut, campaign finance reform and the partial-birth abortion ban. Also advocated “pay-as-you-go” tax cuts with spending increases in 2004, leading to a budget never agreed upon between the House and Senate.

5. Rep. Christopher Shays (Conn.)
He led the House fight for McCain-Feingold campaign finance “reform.”  He’s also prone to back environmental causes, gun control and abortion rights. He had no GOP challenger in 2004, but narrowly escaped defeat, 52% to 48%, by a Democratic opponent in the general election.  

6. Gov. George Pataki (N.Y.)
Helped unions raise pay and unionize Indian casinos.  Has said, “I believe in a limited government, low taxes, a tough approach to crime. ... But I also believe in an activist government. I’m not one of those laissez-faire types.”

7. Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (N.Y.)
Over the course of his 23-year career, he’s gained considerable power (chairman of the Science Committee), despite amassing one of the most liberal voting records of any House Republican. Fought back conservative challengers in 2000 and 2002 and could face a GOP challenge in ’06.

8. Gov. Mitt Romney (Mass.)
Has said, “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.”  Supports civil unions and stringent gun laws. After visiting Houston, he criticized the city’s aesthetics, saying, “This is what happens when you don’t have zoning.”
 

9. Rep. Michael Castle (Del.)
As president of the moderate Republican Main Street Partnership and key player in the so-called Tuesday Group lunches, he is a ring-leader of RINOs. He’s teamed with Democrats to make federal funding of embryonic stem cell research one of his top priorities.  

10. Rep. Jim Leach (Iowa)
One of only six House Republicans to vote against the Iraq War resolution in 2002, he was also the only Republican to vote against President Bush’s 2003 tax cuts. His support for environmental causes and abortion rights has won him liberal fans.

171 posted on 12/20/2008 7:46:10 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ("I've got a bracelet too, Jim")
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To: VictoryGal
... using this as an opportunity to show how we are different, that we have ideas that can work.

But he's wrong. Your Hero has no clothes. He's naked -- he thinks government is the answer. He's arrogant enough to think that he can direct -- manage -- government for we taxpayers better as a businessman who works in and for government. Government is part of the problem.

Romney is part of the problem.

172 posted on 12/20/2008 7:47:55 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Diogenesis
It is because of your fantastic “good judgment” that we ended up with the loser McCain.
173 posted on 12/20/2008 7:50:24 PM PST by broncobilly
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To: SVTCobra03
How about “refurbish and modernize our military equipment”? I did not support Mitt for POTUS and would rather see him as SECTREAS in a Palin administration. He still has some good ideas.

You're easily impressed.

Hey, and he's for energy independence, too! Brilliant! Too bad he thinks getting there involves "investing" in alternative energy sources. The putz.

174 posted on 12/20/2008 7:58:35 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: broncobilly

Deval Patrick is planning to dismantle the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and cut all tolls west of Route 128 except at two state border....

Deval Patrick is delaying salary increases for 30000 human services workers. The Patrick administration is refusing to release $23 million in this year’s ...

Mass. Gov. Deval Patrick to cut $1 billion from budget in wake of financial turmoil....


175 posted on 12/20/2008 8:04:38 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Finny
Mass gets its Natural Gas from off its coast, but just inside Canadian Waters, so it goes up to Canada and piped down to Mass. We could just drill for decades of gas within Mass waters. Good pay jobs, taxes.

Mitt did nothing to push this. Zip. Zero. Nada.

But, now, like conservatism, he's all gung-ho for energy.

Just not when he had the chance as Governor.

176 posted on 12/20/2008 8:08:56 PM PST by Leisler
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To: FastCoyote
Mormons have a strong identity. People vote identity politics. By religion, race, ethnic and class.

If Mitt was a Protestant, he'd have a hard time. He's too stiff, uncomfortable, odd in an way.

Blacks wouldn't be drawn to him, nor Jews, nor blue collar ethnics.

Now throw in the Mormon card.

Just not happening on a national scale for him. He can write all the NR papers his writers can write. Eight people read NR, WSJ.(just kidding, but that's the popular effect)

177 posted on 12/20/2008 8:15:35 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler

These actions by Deval have been called the Romney plan, because they were the actions Romney called for in his first year of Governorship but were denied by the legislature.

“Deval Patrick is planning to dismantle the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and cut all tolls west of Route 128 except at two state border....

Deval Patrick is delaying salary increases for 30000 human services workers. The Patrick administration is refusing to release $23 million in this year’s ...

Mass. Gov. Deval Patrick to cut $1 billion from budget in wake of financial turmoil....”


178 posted on 12/20/2008 8:28:06 PM PST by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater
I always said Mitt talks good.

Deval is doing it. No one can say he's a mean old Republican. Which is a very effective tactic against wimpy RINOs.

179 posted on 12/20/2008 8:31:09 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Edit35
Maybe you can post this picture another 2,000 or so

Once was sufficient to get your panties in a knot, while demonstrating how dishonest your claim was that Romney stands up to leftists. He sits down laughing with them as he spits on conservatives.

Why don’t you post the 10,000 pictures of McCain playing kissie kissie legislation with liberal anti-American politicians

Okay.


180 posted on 12/20/2008 8:58:40 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Romney/Chafee 2012


181 posted on 12/20/2008 9:02:42 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: From The Deer Stand

“Romney at least understands economics”

In this commentary, Romney demonstrates that he is a Keynesian and probably a corporatist. IOW, a socialist.

We already know from his record in MA that he is a pro-sodomite, pro-abortion, anti-gun social liberal.

What a great combo.


182 posted on 12/20/2008 9:46:47 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: nmh

“One can only hope that Evangelicals and other bigots will get over themselves and vote for Mitt.”

I’ll never support a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, anti-gun, pro-bailout big government Republican, which is exactly what Mitt is.


183 posted on 12/20/2008 9:49:48 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: EternalVigilance; KevinDavis

“Phony tax cuts are the bait for stupid people.”

Exactly.

And tax cuts accompanied with increased spending, fiscal deficits and currency devaluation are suicide for the long term health of any economy.


184 posted on 12/20/2008 9:57:40 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“...but he would have made a decent Secretary of Treasury or Secretary of Commerce.”

No, he would not.

Romney has demonstrated that he is an unprincipled man who is not fit for elected or appointed civil government office anywhere, at any level.

On the other hand, he’s probably a perfect fit for Wall Street.


185 posted on 12/20/2008 10:07:13 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mitt makes a lot of sense. It’s too bad that John McCain knows nothing about economics.


186 posted on 12/20/2008 10:14:48 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: broncobilly
His success in the private sector, when he was able to do what he wanted, tells me what the real Romney is like...

Success in the private sector, especially MBA exec management success, is very different from understanding economics and embracing limited government in a nation of free people and self-determined commerce. Those successful MBA execs didn't get that way because they were working in a free-people framework. They operate in a manipulative, hired work concept, and for the most part, they're the employers. They see their jobs as to be managing execs, MBAs, for the government, with taxpayers as the employees. They manipulate the government to tell us how to earn and pay our taxes right. Romney says "cut regulations," and you grasp it as proof he understands the limited government concept. I read it as just one more bit of Romney sweet-sounding sell-the-board spiel that saps fall for.

I wish some people would get over their hatred for this guy ...

I wish Romney people would get over their lust for the word "hatred" to describe the motivations of those with whom they disagree.

187 posted on 12/20/2008 11:38:41 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: LexBaird; LiveFree99
If you believe that Santa Claus is gonna get us out of this mess, you belong on the other team.

Anybody who believes that Romney is going to get the GOP and America out of this mess, may as well believe in Santa Claus.

188 posted on 12/20/2008 11:42:13 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Brilliant
Second, the federal government did cause the recession with its “affordable housing” policies. They used their influence to get their cronies appointed to the Fannie Mae board, and then promptly looted the company to fund their affordable housing initiatives. It was the downfall of Fannie Mae that brought this all about.

Third, State governments would not be in such tough shape if it were not for the fact that the federal government consumes such a large portion of the taxpayer’s paycheck. When the federal government consumes so much of their income, there is a lot of pressure on State and local governments to compensate by reducing taxes at the State and local level. If Obama has his way, it’s only going to get worse.

Brilliant, that's ... well, your screen name! Well posted!

189 posted on 12/20/2008 11:48:30 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Wegotsarah.com

“Gratuitous” is a GREAT word to describe Mitt Romney’s pronouncements.


190 posted on 12/20/2008 11:50:16 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: LiveFree99
I can only conclude that Mitt is either a fool or a dishonest phony who is pandering his worthless remedies for momentary political gain.

There is a scene right at the start of the pretty funny movie "Legally Blond" where the well-pedigreed, smarmy, kiss-ass, handsome, very self-assured, suave boyfriend shows up at the door for a date. It's a hilarious scene for any of us who remember the Mitts from our own adolescence and youth. Mitt's a cross between that character and Eddie Haskell, but there was something always likeable about Eddie. Mitt's an empty carton.

191 posted on 12/21/2008 12:00:51 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: TAdams8591
I read Mark Levin's endorsement and announcement of support of Romney, and it struck me as pretty piss-poor praise. Basically Levin said McCain was as bad as Huckabee, and he invited people to join him in opting for Romney, as flawed as he was, as the least of the evils ahead. That's a pretty far cry from thinking Romney is the next Great White Hope for the GOP, which is what I think you imply to FReepers as Levin's intent. The implication is false and I hope they will go read Levin's words themselves -- it's easy to google Levin Romney Endorsement or some such thing. That's how I found it in a matter of 30 seconds or so.

Mark Levin is no sycophant. TAdams8591, on the other hand ...

192 posted on 12/21/2008 12:14:20 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Edit35
The virulent Romney-haters ... They are stuck on hatred ...

Virulent Romney lovers who lie to fellow FReepers by claiming falsely that their Hero was "endorsed/supported" by all manner of major conservative thinkers who in fact gave Romney faint, half-damning praise as the least loser of a piss-poor lot, are:

a. Stuck on the word "hatred" and ...
b. Stuck on Stupid. Romney is a big-government guy who fails to comprehend that government is not the solution, it's the problem.

193 posted on 12/21/2008 12:37:44 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny
You should see it from the other side.
Any other name comes up that has as many potential negatives as Romney and it hardly raises a stir: McCain, Giuliani, Hucklebee, Bush, etc. But when Romney comes up, suddenly we have a 100-200 thread mostly of antagonistic comments: socialist, smarmy, flip-flop, you name it. Some of it is so bad it has to be deleted. Much of what is said is very biased. To me that indicates a bit of hatred for the guy, sometimes for reason unspoken. But you can call it what you want.
194 posted on 12/21/2008 1:52:44 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

Well, at least he’s not running. He did say that, right?


195 posted on 12/21/2008 4:16:33 AM PST by Leisler
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To: broncobilly

Nobody is making a full-court press pushing any of the other RINOs on FR the way Romney’s sycophantic rubes continually do. If folks on here continually posted thread after thread supporting Guiliani (or other RINOs) you would see the same result.

The fact is that Romney’s record shows he is a liberal. Liberals will always meet with bold resistance on FR, no matter who they are.


196 posted on 12/21/2008 4:23:30 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: ethics
Here is an idea which could be pushed right now:

  1. With few exceptions, all new government hires would be people willing to forgo social security in return for a job.
  2. Mandatory retirements annually of the bottom performing 20% starting at age 35 to open said jobs.
  3. Bridge the gap between the two Americas-- those who produce the taxes and those who consume them.
  4. Best of all-- an automatically shrinking pool of available government workers as the boomers die off. An entire generation of young people who view government service as something they might do at age 62 or more rather than a lifetime entitlement.

197 posted on 12/21/2008 4:40:02 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: broncobilly
broncobilly, RomneyBOT anti-Palin Attack Squad: " It is because of your fantastic “good judgment”
that we ended up with the loser McCain.r"

Bzzzzt. Wrong. The Real Deal is that Team Romney sabotaged
Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain (as Romney did over and over)
so that the other socialist friend of Romney could be elected.
Romney owes America and the GOP and apology.

Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney

Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?

Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?

Romney Supporters Trashing Palin

Romney advisors sniping at Palin?


Novak: Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign

Said Novak: The rumors were "traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Romney) lost Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."
[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

198 posted on 12/21/2008 5:10:11 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: broncobilly
broncobilly, RomneyBOT Attack Squad: "Any other name comes up that has as many potential negatives as Romney
and it hardly raises a stir: McCain, Giuliani, Hucklebee, Bush, etc.
But when Romney comes up, suddenly we have a 100-200 thread mostly of antagonistic comments: socialist, smarmy, flip-flop, you name it.
Some of it is so bad it has to be deleted. Much of what is said is very biased.
To me that indicates a bit of hatred for the guy, sometimes for reason unspoken.
But you can call it what you want. "

It is called substantial, unrebutted, criticism of Myth Romney's
liberal, shapeshifting, socialist, antivoting behavior delivered by scores of FReepers
who are not Romney-cultists.

FRee Republic Member Opinion
WINNER - Thompson 66.8% 1,658

LOSER --- Romney 12.7% 315

Post Election Rasmussen poll - GOP voters:
WINNER - Palin -- 64%

LOSER --- Huckabee -- 12%
LOSER --- Romney -- 11%

199 posted on 12/21/2008 5:16:56 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: From The Deer Stand
Get over it. Romney at least understands economics and has a business head unlike the vast majority of those in Congress.

Bump that.

200 posted on 12/21/2008 6:06:09 AM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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