Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
It was apparently known in Washington that the Dunhams were communists. They went to a church that was known as the “Little Red Church” and not because it was painted in red paint.
Same here. I think we are being scammed, for the purpose of talking up Ed Hale's site and increasing his ratings. If he's got something relevant to Obama's eligibility, then show it. Stop the hype.
Michelle O’s quote from that article:
His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was “very young and very single when she had him.”
Regardless of the timing of the marraige, in the end, we have a man who is obviously born and raised with divided loyalties.
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From my readings, I understand that Obama Sr was already married to a woman in Kenya.
It would be possible that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya, to marry him as more than 1 wife would probably be legal there, not here.
Could we all just take a step back here and quit eating our own?
99% of the Freepers would love for this to sprout wings and fly, but we all have our own personal levels of suspicion and weight of evidence.
Just because I’m not willing to sell everything I own and go on a personal quest to bring down the Messiah doesn’t mean I don’t care.
Sheesh, the coffee this morning must have been way too strong for many of you.
Is Ancestry.com open to everyone or another pay sight?How can we help? Let see if we can get this search organized.
Before you indict, you might possibly want to wait for the next installment.
This all came out JUST last night. He DID deliver on producing the decree which no other news source accomplished.
They have now moved to obtaining these POE documents from what we understand.
If that turns out to be bogus, then you can castigate to your heat’s desire.
just go with what little we know about how the CIA and the OSS worked and think about all the black holes in this story and the allegations about the Boeing scandal.
It is possible that Dear old dad was an asset or a double asset.
I firmly believe the truth of this is buried in the CIA files somewhere. It may be buried in one of those files that is only on paper and can only be accessed by the high levels.
Just too many black holes in the history of this guy.
Awesome. We do know whereof we speak, right? Nothing like those Mtns.
I don't disagree, but this entire "natural born citizen" foolishness needs to be changed. Citizenship should come from the parents, not from what soil anyone was born on. But it might never be changed as far too many have a self-interest in perpetuating the convoluted nonsense.
Hey, you castigated me for being only suspect to the level you state here.
So, that makes me an Obat operative?
I’ll wait for the next installment and see if it goes anywhere as that’s what up Obat operatives do :-)
That may be current law, however you have to go by the law at the time of his birth which was this :
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
She did not live in the US for 5 years after the age of 14 before he was born. If he was born overseas, not only would he not have "natural born" citizenship, he would not have US citizenship.
Nan, aren’t you interested in geneology...Do you know of any web data bases that list entrants at Port of Calls?
You can get basic information for free. I think you can get still get a free ancestry.com trial but I already did a trial when searching for my own family history.
The problem is that the census documents are only released after so many years. Not sure the cut off but I was seeing 1957 on alot of them. that would cover Kelly Ann Dunham, Scott Dunham and some of these other aliases. I have seen repeated reference to Stanley Ann (Anna) Dunham on the internet.
I don’t know if she went by that name or if that is just people getting the name screwed up and it mushrooming as can happen on the internet.
Ok, fair enough. But how many times do you need to repeat —over and over again—the same ‘nay saying’ refrain?
We have heard you and heard you and heard you.
If you are sincere in your claims, do not kill off momentum and interest before this plays out. It’s mob psychology.
NONE OF US KNOW ENOUGH TO BE SURE OF ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
We are in fact finding mode.
Stick to the facts without so much editorial negativity until more is known.
Then, if it is all a sham, you can rant and rave all you want—we will join together with you.
I agree, but they aren’t what they present themselves to be.
I have lost respect for the lot of them over this.
After 18 years I’ve stopped listening to them. This includes Ann and Malkin.
Bullshit.
If anyone could have gotten to the bottom of the “place of birth” question, it would have been the Clintons. And since they were not able to succeed, forget it!
Bullshit what?
It’s a pay site, and I’ve done lots of research on it. Keizo Obama was a ship’s crew member who made quite a few trips in and out of the port of Seattle in the latter part of the 20’s.
Current law does’nt apply, it goes by the law at that time.
Nice try.
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