Skip to comments.Importance of the newly located Dunham/Obama Sr divorce decree in proving ineligibility
Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
He doesn’t have the birth certificate yet, he has to send someone to the point of entry to get it.
Same here sevin. We will become a “closed” community. It’s almost that way already.
“I’m not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I’m still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I’m a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment.”
Very well said.... Will this be enough proof to give this story legs or will it continue to be amputated at the knees? Time will tell. I for one am befuddled as to why so few want to take the constitution (Natural Born part) seriously. I think Berg has something with the Supreme Court early next week. Good Luck Mr. Berg and Thank you!
The Obama/Dunham divorce decree to be posted Friday, Jan 2. Friday, January 02, 2009 8:51:12 PM · 210 of 215
BluH2o to jackofhearts
The divorce papers are available on PlainsRadio.com BUT...its the divorce decree between Soetero and Dunham NOT Obama and Dunham. NO NEWS HERE.
Yeah ... another FReeper bust ... must be noon Norwegian time.
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Oh yeah, and he is talking with Leo Denofrio to try again.
Fact is Zero could call a live press conference and bludgeon a semi-trailer full of puppies and kittens and be praised by the DNC/msm.
They have too much invested in him to knock him off the pedestal.
As for the Supremes, for every good decision they make, there is a egregious unconstitutional one to counter it. Roe v Wade, Miller, Kelo... Frankly I don’t think they have the guts to do what’s right.
rant mode off
Article XX: Section. 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
What the Constitution says is that Biden would "act as President until a President shall have qualified".
What this means, the "shall have qualified" part, is unclear to me. If Obama was born in Kenya, then nothing can happen to remove his disqualification. Under a simple interpretation, it means that Biden would "act as President" until January 20, 2013. But an alternative scenario would be that the House of Representatives would have to elect a President from among the top three electoral vote getters who were qualified, i.e, John McCain, John McCain, or John McCain, and after the House election, Biden would resume his elected office of Vice President under President McCain.
He didn’t just “present it on the radio”, he TALKED about it on the radio and put a scanned copy on his website.
People, you have to start with some common sense before going off on it!
Not that I believe there is a birth certificate or anything, but in THIS case with THESE documents, I know.
Sorry. I guess I was responding to another post where it said that the divorce decree said Barry was born in Kenya.
Does anyone have access to Ancestry.com to do a border search or other kinds of searchs. Their border search records may stop before the date but it might show some other interesting info about the people involved.
No. No, it wouldn’t, but I think I have seen you on the COLB threads before spouting this same nonsense and I am quite sure you have been presented with the information that disproves what you say. So I won’t bother again.
No, she didn’t have the requisite time as an over 18 US citizen prior to giving birth to Obama to automatically pass that on from what I understand.
Meanwhile, if it can be shown that Obama has repeatedly lied in claiming to have been born the US, when he may well have not been—technical eligibility or not—is grounds for for not inaugurating him President. I think that is a criminal act.
So at the end of the day..once again—lies about the “coverup” rather than the central act—may be the undoing here.
Who are "they"? Hale and his PI? The PI "team"? African Press Internationale?
Agreed! No one wants to take on this case, and at this late date, it’s impossible that anything would be done, no matter what has been discovered. As you state, they’d just change the rules if it was actually proven that he was born elsewhere.
If anyone could have gotten to the bottom of the “place of birth” question, it would have been the Clintons. And since they were not able to succeed, forget it!
This is all well and good..but what exactly would happen if everything turns out the way we suspect? Do you think they’d just say...ok..he can’t be President? They would just change the law retroactively....too much at stake.
The real good news is that Hitlary is a natural born criminal and not anointed by rabid communists and guilty racists. Further, it has already been established by the left that discrimination against women is a virtue. Hitlary is a political fight that can be waged without actual war. I am not so sure about the first not quite American Dictator.
Since you read that thread, did you miss the thread where he actually POSTED the Obama divorce papers?
He posted them at 9pm central.
People are so expert in their slinging of sarcastic arrows here.
They provided a link to the decree which can be seen online.