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Citigroup bows to pressure, cancels 7X order
Flight International ^ | Jan 27, 2009 | John Croft

Posted on 01/27/2009 7:57:33 PM PST by Yo-Yo

Global financial services company Citigroup today cancelled an order for a Dassault Falcon 7X business jet to be delivered later this year as pressure mounted from the US Congress and even the White House.

The action is an about-face from the company's staunch defence of its order on Monday, telling news outlets that the purchase of the $40 million long-range business jet would proceed. Citigroup last year secured $45 billion in aid from the US government to continue operating amid the financial meltdown.

Key critics of the deal included Michigan Senator Carl Levin, whose home-state automobile manufacturers shed their corporate jets and flight departments in exchange for government financial aid late last year. Levin had threatened to have the US government block the 7X purchase.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 111th; aerospace; aviation; citigroup; dopeydems; socialists
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To: buccaneer81

I am not all that crazy about the bank using the Paulson Bail Out money on a French Made Airplane.


41 posted on 01/27/2009 9:33:53 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Tempest

Don’t worry. When they discover that the 7X is made by a French company they are going to get really mad.

Big Bank uses our money to buy Boeing, Not Very Mad

Big Bank uses our money to buy French plane, Very Mad

I will be pissed until the bankers in question are riding the Greyhound Bus.


42 posted on 01/27/2009 9:39:17 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: bronxboy

third time’s a charm, eh?


43 posted on 01/27/2009 9:45:10 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Hey Citi,

You agreed to the terms of the bailout. You gotta do what the gov’t says now.


44 posted on 01/27/2009 9:49:19 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Brad from Tennessee

F em.

They’re not hourly.

Besides if they get less done they will cause less of a mess.

Every ‘three letter title’ person I’ve been acquainted with has been a net negative producer.

Presidents of start ups on the other hand are usually brilliant. CEO’s of public corps...idiot air thief empty suits.


45 posted on 01/27/2009 10:02:40 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Army Air Corps

“Can the manufacturer sue for breach of contract?”

Maybe not but City will lose a few milliom deposit.

They ordered the jet 3 years ago and are selling 2 older jets which should make it a wash cash wise, or close.

Congress critters are really a stupid group of neanderthals.

Over 10,000 businesses in this country that use private aircraft can’t be wrong.


46 posted on 01/27/2009 10:08:03 PM PST by dalereed
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To: bronxboy
You're the arrogant commie around here!
47 posted on 01/27/2009 10:11:50 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Dinsdale

“Presidents of start ups on the other hand are usually brilliant.”

Very true. They could be the key to our economic salvation if our “leaders” ever thought of tapping their ideas.


48 posted on 01/27/2009 10:12:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: bronxboy

“big layoff coming. LOL”

With your attitude I hope you get the axe!!!!!


49 posted on 01/27/2009 10:13:35 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed
Frankly, this was just being used as a distraction for the sheeple. Get them focused on this so that they will ignore the gazillion dollar porkapalooza inching its way through the bowels of Congress.
50 posted on 01/27/2009 10:15:07 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: bronxboy
"You are comparing a trillion plus dollar bailout with a stimulus check? Give me a break. OK, you have found me out, I bought a new jet.. it was on clearance you see and"

I paid more federal income tax than you. You got a check and I didn't. From my perspective you have my money so don't act so pure. I'm sure you would argue otherwise. All people who have what others own offer the best of rationalizations in exchange.

Yeah, $600.00 bucks, buy a plane.. big laugh. Must seem like a trifling when you're not the one earning it. May I give you another, sir?

I'd say thanks.


51 posted on 01/27/2009 10:38:14 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Gondring

Yes.... The Bill.


52 posted on 01/27/2009 10:47:11 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Brad from Tennessee
When you’re paying people thousands of dollars an hour there is a practical side to not having them kill a few hours in the airport lounge waiting for a connecting flight.

When you're paying people thousands of dollars an hour, you're usually wasting money. Rarely is that rate a good value, with the entertainment business being one of the exceptions (e.g., talk show hosts, sports figures).

Compensation of corporate officers has largely been decoupled from performance. If investors want to agree to the reciprocal Board arrangements, etc., then that's their prerogative--if they accept the losses with the gains. But now that I, the American taxpayer, have been brought in against my will to prop them up, then it's reasonable to expect some better relationship between performance and compensation.

In most cases, a far less expensive officer cadre would perform as well as, or better than, what currently sits in place.

Of course, this sticky problem (government running of businesses) is one of the biggest reason why the bailouts are a bad idea in the first place.

53 posted on 01/27/2009 11:29:34 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Tempest
Socialism is when private institutions make bad investments and pass their losses onto the taxpayer.

Uh, no. That's Corporatism.

Responsibility is when the same institution needs to show fiscally responsible practices for the money in which they’ve bilked from the taxpayers.

That's Socialism, where the State controls running of the businesses.

Responsibility is when poorly run businesses are allowed to fail so better-run ones can take their place, rather than propping up and promoting failure (which punishes and keeps down the businesses that are efficient).

54 posted on 01/27/2009 11:33:51 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: buccaneer81
Why do these bankers get a pass on this forum?

Look, I hate the banks, too. But they play a much larger role in the economy than your precious UAW. Deal with it.

LOL.... Those white collar criminals screwed up America 100x worse than the UAW. Add the Wall St anarchists to that too. You give a pass to the crooks dressed in $2000 suits

55 posted on 01/27/2009 11:38:50 PM PST by dennisw (Meshuggah Muhammad put the following words in the mouth of his sock puppet deity...................)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
When you’re paying people thousands of dollars an hour there is a practical side to not having them kill a few hours in the airport lounge waiting for a connecting flight.

Fair point - but think of all the taxpayers' money they won't be losing while they are cooling their heels in an airport lounge.

56 posted on 01/27/2009 11:40:59 PM PST by John Locke
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To: Tempest

Me too
Read anything Pat Buchanan has to say about these bailouts. He agrees with us how bankers/Wall Street gets billions thrown at them, no questions

While the men who run our American automobile companies get grilled and then a pittance is thrown at them for bailouts....Plus Pelosi and her greenies stipulate they must make green automobiles


57 posted on 01/27/2009 11:44:06 PM PST by dennisw (Meshuggah Muhammad put the following words in the mouth of his sock puppet deity...................)
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To: I see my hands

I pay taxes also, thus you theory is just plain wrong. However, I understand your point. The banks get bailed out and can continue on with bonuses, planes etc...misuse taxpayer funds...they are entitled...the banks also got a fat new tax break secreted in the first bailout you know...however, the American worker should get nothing...ever.Our banker betters are special-so special.


58 posted on 01/28/2009 3:43:36 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: dennisw

Yeah, the autos take it on the chin from the right and left...bankers-oh dear-they are members of the ‘club’ and must not have their lives disrupted by an economic tsunami they caused.


59 posted on 01/28/2009 3:45:06 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Tempest

Buying a plane stimulates the economy.

So does taking a luxury vacation.

I dont want the govt to tell me what to buy, even though i havent “bilked the texpayer”.

The strings attached to getting bailout money make the whole thing a bigger farce than it already is.

if you dont understand that, GFY.


60 posted on 01/28/2009 3:47:05 AM PST by Canedawg (Lincoln freed the slaves, BO will free the terrorists. "Unity of purpose" my a- -. Mr.POS)
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