Well this is cool. Scratch that. It's Awesome.

Arizona State Legislature ^

[Weight of Glory]

Whereas, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.

Therefore Be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the State of Arizona, the Senate concurring, that: 1. That the State of Arizona hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States. 2. That this Resolution serves as notice and demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

[djsherin]

Lincoln didn’t care about the slavery issue. The monetary costs of the war could have bought the freedom of every slave with 40 acres and a mule. Letting the South secede would have actually been better for slavery’s end because then the North would have no obligation to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act and likely, many more slaves would have escaped to freeman status.

Congress has the power to suspend Habeas Corpus “...in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”

Though I don’t believe the South’s actions constituted rebellion, even if it did, the president suspending Habeas Corpus is unconstitutional. It is up to Congress.

[devane617]

There were a couple posts yesterday from diff states stating pretty much the same. I believe SC did this yesterday, and AZ also.

[TADSLOS]

Pre-emptive Strike. I love it.

[ksen]

Just emailed my State Representative in Florida to see if Florida is doing something like this and if they aren’t if he’d be interested in sponsoring something like this for out state.

I included links to the AZ resolution and the NH resolution.

Anyone know if more states are doing the same?

[ksen]

Anyone wanting backup for any of these, I’ll post a link.

I'd love to see those links when you get a minute.

Thanks.

[coon2000]

I agree with you, slavery was a terrible thing and needed to be abolished.

Lincoln did not invade the south because of slavery though. What he did was ignore the constitution. The Supreme Court said that Lincoln could not suspend habeas corpus without an act of congress. Lincoln ignored the Supreme Court and told the military to ignore the Supreme Court. After the war, the Supreme Court again said that it was illegal for the military to hold trials in areas where the civil courts could function. When the federal government decided to not put Jefferson Davis on trial for treason, they said they wanted to heal the division. A more believable argument is that they knew they would lose the case in the Supreme Court. Then what do you have? The Federal government invading a sovereign nation without an Act of War by the Congress, resulting in massive death, casualties, destruction of property, etc etc.

I feel some slight hope that least some of the states might actually try to regain what was taken from them illegally. The federal government was not supposed to meddle in the affairs of the states. The Constitution clearly lays out what the federal government can do, everything else is left up to the states and the people.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Exactly right!

We are thinking very seriously about moving back to AZ soon.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

ping

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

What do you think of drafting Matt Salmon to challenge McCain? Would he have a chance of beating him?

[JenB987]

Same with PA. If you look at the map from the Nov. elections, you can see that Obama took the electoral votes because of Pittsburgh and Philly, leaving us bitter clingers feeling let down and labeled, once again.

[ponygirl]

I would imagine Utah would have to be in there.

[April Lexington]

I’m in the position.. “I Can’t Afford to Live here, I Can’t Afford to MOVE.”

[April Lexington]

iIn fact at the time of the amendment state legislators elected the Senate (the power of the states) and the people elected the Reps. (the power of the people). It did not establish a conflict between state and nation, but provided for the control of the nation through the states and the people.</i><p.

Can you provide a legal citation to support this conclusion?

Thanks

[April Lexington]

Can you elaborate, please? Thanks.

Weez gittin ready fer a civil war, boy!

[April Lexington]

We can start with repraling the repeal of the Posse comitatus act that BUSH just signed!

[April Lexington]

Just in case they don’t listen, Texas will bring the fireworks to the party.

Yeee Haaah!

[April Lexington]

Should the feds then decide to place economic sanctions, generally meaning the withholding of certain funds, the state could then simply stop making the monthly disbursement to the feds and retain the funds in the escrow accounts. When the matter is resolved, and it certainly will be, the disbursements could continue.

This action could be considered an act of war against the sovereign state!

[montesquieu]

There are ten states that are doing this. There are language similarities that suggest the possibility of coordination.

Some are wondering what prompted this, at this time, and are implying that something “not good” is looming.

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Crapp!! It’s a Civil War in the making. Buy guns and ammo?! I really have had a BAD feeling for while now. Say your prayers folks.

[azishot]

DO you think it’s really fair to the “new president?” Doesn’t the poor little guy has enough problems trying to get his porkulus package passed? We have to cut him some slack. (OK...enough sarcasm)

I really am proud of my state for this stand they are taking. God bless Gov. Brewer and the Repulicans!

[EBH]

The sovereignty proclaimed by the state simply inserts the authority of the state, guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, at a point to re-assert control which should never have been given over. This measure will then relieve the pressure of frustration from a federal government wildly out of control and move the decision process much closer to the people.

These resolutions started popping up about a year ago or year and a half ago from some states. I didn't quite understand what or why exert the effort towards legislation like this at this time. I mean the states already have these Rights. The resolutions seem to only be notifying the President that the State(s) will what????

Withhold funds in escrow until the situation is resolved.

Really what else can the State do anymore these days? And given the printing presses of the government, withholding funds doesn't seem to be an effective option. Resolutions like this should not be taken lightly or else they are just 'paper tigers.'

Within the past 3 weeks we've seen our worst nightmare coming to fruition. A wildly out of control liberal democrat congress with a President in waiting. A President that is waiting to sign legislation that sets the country on a solid path to socialism. A President that is willing to have a mandatory volunteer program, run through the DNC, to push his agenda(blueshirts).

Many here think 0bama is lacking or showing his inexperience, I suggest he is showing his extensive experience of putting in place socialism. We're calling it lack of experience because our ideals are so rooted in the "American Dream" of self sufficiency, that we are in denial that a real coup de'etat took place on Nov. 4th.

0bama knows exactly what he is doing. He has many useful idiots in congress. He appears upset because even if he gets the porkulus bill through it gives him and his useful henchman the tools they need to shut-down the republicans, conservative talk radio, and even the cable programming (like what he interrupted last night). I am not talking about items in the bill, but he is trying to destroy the credibilities of his opposition.

State Resolutions, hope and pray they mean what they say.