Posted on 02/10/2009 8:20:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Let’s listen in on a hypothetical conversation between a biblical creationist (C) and an evolutionist (E) as they discuss some recent scientific news headlines:
E: Have you heard about the research findings regarding mouse evolution?
C: Are you referring to the finding of coat color change in beach mice?
E: Yes, isn’t it a wonderful example of evolution in action?
C: No, I think it’s a good example of natural selection in action, which is merely selecting information that already exists.
E: Well, what about antibiotic resistance in bacteria? Don’t you think that’s a good example of evolution occurring right before our eyes?
C: No, you seem to be confusing the terms “evolution” and “natural selection.”
E: But natural selection is the primary mechanism that drives evolution.
C: Natural selection doesn’t drive molecules-to-man evolution; you are giving natural selection a power that it does not have—one that can supposedly add new information to the genome, as molecules-to-man evolution requires. But natural selection simply can’t do that because it works with information that already exists.
Natural selection is an observable process that is often purported to be the underlying mechanism of unobservable molecules-to-man evolution. The concepts are indeed different, though some mistakenly interchange the two. So let’s take a closer look. There are two major questions to answer:
(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...
Good morning ping!
Nice piece.
Faulty premise.
Why don’t you enlighten us.
Chapter VI Difficulties on Theory
“Firstly, why, if species have descended from other species by insensibly fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?”
“But, as by this theory innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?”
“But in the intermediate region, having intermediate conditions of life, why do we not now find
closely-linking intermediate varieties? This difficulty for a long time quite confounded me.”
“Lastly, looking not to any one time, but to all time, if my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties, linking most closely all the species of the same group together, must assuredly have existed; but the very process of natural selection constantly tends, as has been so often remarked, to exterminate the parent forms and the intermediate links. Consequently evidence of their former existence could be found only amongst fossil remains, which are preserved, as we shall in a future chapter attempt to show, in an extremely imperfect and intermittent record.”
The explanation given is:
“As natural selection acts solely by the preservation of profitable modifications, each new form will tend in a fully-stocked country to take the place of, and finally to exterminate, its own less improved parent or other less-favoured forms with which it comes into competition. Thus extinction and natural selection will, as we have seen, go hand in hand. Hence, if we look at each species as descended from some other unknown form, both the parent and all the transitional varieties will generally have been exterminated by the very
process of formation and perfection of the new form.”
...clearly lacking in that little thing called DETAILS...Darwin did however say that to date (his date) not enough fossil evidence had been found...and according to...Robert L. Carroll:
Patterns and Processes of Vertebrate Evolution, Cambridge University Press, 1997, p. 25.
THEY STILL HAVEN’T...
http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/pdf/Origin_of_Species.pdf
I haven't read this, but ... from the title I say;
Natural selection kills the weaker
Evolution gives/takes the tails on/off.
Two different animals .... er ... um ... I mean ....
Ahhhhhhh .. neh'mind.
Using the other guy’s rhetoric, arguing (using) the other guy’s assumptions, fighting on the other guy’s turf.
Ain’t no way to win.
Seems to me that evolution is impossible to prove and so is creation.
Sometimes “We don’t know” is the best answer.
More like macro-evolution is a losing argument because there are no facts to support it.
I agree.
At least with evolution you are dealing with science, so the statement is "This is the best scientific explanation we could come up with. We do not guarantee its absolute truth." No area of science does. We always await new scientific information to destroy our current theories.
Creation simply claims absolute truth from the beginning based on the state of world knowledge at 2,500-3,000 years ago.
I would say that this is (to a large extent) the stand of ID'ers and Creationists. "We don't know" but some of us believe the Bible has the answers.
The problem is this -- the Evolutionists say "We DO know. The answer is evolution and the rest of you are fools. We belong in public schools, you do not, and we will crush you."
Ben Stein's movie "Expelled" is enlightening on how academia treats people who think Evolutionists may not have all the answers.
By that reasoning adding new words to a language is also just selecting from existing information provided the same alphabet is used.
What gets really interesting is if a whole new alphabet and a whole new language suddenly appears. That would be the equivalent of speciation. But, alas, that would only occur through Intelligent Design of the new species/new language.
One of two will do. Thanks.
Watched NatGeo the other night, and dontchaknowit there’s a ‘new marvelous example of evolution happening right before our eyes with polar bears evolving”?
Turns out polar bears have mated with Grizzlies creating a ‘Grolar bear’
There you have it folks- proof positive that evolution is ‘still goign on today’- Bears mating with bears to create what? Yup- Bears.
Thanks for the ping!
They also weren't terribly strong on the Germ Theory of Disease.
The result was a lot of his stuff was mere specualtion.
LOL...the bear-kind always wins!
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